Chromatican 4,046 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoSourCandy said: if you compare lady gaga with the people like kesha and katy the standards must be really LOW like low low. and yes its not wrong to care about charts and getting hits left and right. it shows how strong you are in this business and how public keep showing you and your music some interest. I'm comparing Gaga to her contemporaries. What promo should Gaga have done? Her coachella set was cancelled, she was unable to film for months, her tour was cancelled, her album was released alongside the murder of George Floyd, and she had other obligations planned in Q4 2020. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 It wasn't slow and it a been true for years now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spector 1,918 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 it took me a long time, hardened by dissociate episodes with regard to my stanhood, to realize and accept that she is, and has always been, a performer first—not a musician. it's only part of her artistry. taylor, for instance, is clearly a musician first—her artistry is rooted in writing songs and curating soundscapes. neither is better or worse, just different—and, in turn, the spectatorial attitude toward them should also be different. i think what makes this shift in gaga's artistic trajectory extremely hard to accept (or even see!) is that it has, in fact, only started to take place, or morph into tangibility, if you will, recently, with her debut film, asib. she has booked, as of now, two more. if acting proves to be a successful avenue for her, she'll slowly move further away from music. in that case, balancing on the different tangents of her artistry will be an even more delicate task: not only for her own self (of which "lady gaga" is merely a superhero facet, as she now accepted to preserve her sanity/mental health, and as she now articulated/communicated, intending us to accept it—her—too) and her team, but also for her superfans—given that her musical oeuvre ("lady gaga") will be even more spaced out. if she flops as an actor, it is my guess that she'll accept the reduction of her artistic space into music and, as a result, she will either, at last, release genre-bending pieces (pop-inflected metal, rock, etc.) or retire early from heartbreak edit: reading some of the comments, the simpler explanation is the lack of communication on her part. her artistic venues, perhaps, would be appreciated and awaited, irrespective of their nature (music, film, etc.), if she took the time and kept in touch with her fans, and showed actual interest in her current project/vision. stella + elliot = stelliot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSourCandy 348 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chromatican said: I'm comparing Gaga to her contemporaries. What promo should Gaga have done? Her coachella set was cancelled, she was unable to film for months, her tour was cancelled, her album was released alongside the murder of George Floyd, and she had other obligations planned in Q4 2020. and is it makes you feel good to compare her to people like kesha and katy perry? both of their careers over years ago and barely sell 50k in first week? compare her to taylor and ariana. taylor released her 3rd remix today to boost her lead single’s sales to debut #1. if gaga did the same stupid love would peaked in Top3 and wouldnt fall harsh like that all the way to the #30 in its 2nd week. nobody expect her to show up in every single award show but we expect some signs that she actually cared about this era lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, SoSourCandy said: and is it makes you feel good to compare her to people like kesha and katy perry? both of their careers over years ago and barely sell 50k in first week? compare her to taylor and ariana. taylor released her 3rd remix today to boost her lead single’s sales to debut #1. if gaga did the same stupid love would peaked in Top3 and wouldnt fall harsh like that all the way to the #30 in its 2nd week. nobody expect her to show up in every single award show but we expect some signs that she actually cared about this era lol Stupid Love leaked a month before it was released...a remix was not going to do much, it got torpedoed way too much its chart run was inevitable. So your issue is Gaga not releasing enough remixes? Talk about first world problems. Apparently releasing remixes = caring about your artistic vision now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodandsmile 10,514 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, giskardsb said: Gaga is going to want to start a family soon and concentrate on activities that give her time for that. Get used to a drought between musical projects, it's coming. lms who complain on my tl whenever she doesn't post on IG for a fews days will have something to cry about then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRichie 1,981 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Cam we close all forum fans and start all over again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, sickandtired said: lms who complain on my tl whenever she doesn't post on IG for a fews days will have something to cry about then Lms complaining don't realize how much Gaga was bashed during ARTPOP and the years following. We could have a Gwen Stefani/Xtina level status right now, but instead Gaga survived and thrived following a tumultuous time in her career. There's not enough appreciation for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Lmao for people to support Gaga, she has to actually do something. We're not like Swifties? Yeah, and that's because we don't get any meaningful interactions with Gaga anymore. I'm glad we're not like them, honestly, because Gaga's lack of connection with fans DOES deserve a negative reaction. I also don't think American/UK fans have any right to be all righteous to others, since even in this non-era anything Gaga did was based there and international fans got almost absolutely nothing. I couldn't even get an official physical copy of Chromatica without importing it myself, lmao. And y'all expect me to be happy about this era? I think not Anyways be righteous all you want, you'll never be able to shut people up because that's not how the world works. Maybe someday y'all will learn that. Edit: and no, I don't believe she's an "industry puppet" or anything. I just think she doesn't care about her fans at all anymore, unless she wants to sell something - or the kindness thing, but again that's mostly only for USA anyway. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSourCandy 348 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Chromatican said: Stupid Love leaked a month before it was released...a remix was not going to do much, it got torpedoed way too much its chart run was inevitable. So your issue is Gaga not releasing enough remixes? Talk about first world problems. Apparently releasing remixes = caring about your artistic vision now? and this even shows how much she didnt cared at all. imagine making a song your lead single after leaking a MONTH before everyone heard and overplayed already. its simple she doesnt care and ruined the era that everyone was waiting for with high hopes. she just find out she makes easy money from make up in late 2019 and thats it. who needs to sell albums when u can sell lipsticks? right? why she just cant go back to being an artist from NYC. she was just too cool back then. and it truly hurts what she become now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MessyTop said: And we get it. But is like non stop from both sides. At some point we just have to move on. Listen I’m not a fan of Haus Labs, I learned to stay away from those threads and let the fans enjoy Haus Labs. So if a fan wants to do a thread about Gaga’s becoming an industry puppet, maybe stay away from it, cause is obviously causing distress. Not worth it. You know what I mean? Sinds when are you a moderator also how people stop making these flambait threads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,026 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, PropaGaga said: I would also argue that since the tour was delayed, it makes far more sense to do most of the promotion (videos, performances, interviews) when people are actually wanting to buy tickets to an event. It benefits her far more to wait than essentially waste promo spots way too early and have people forget she had done anything at all. This is where she makes most of her money, and if the rumors are true that it wasn’t selling that great to begin with, she’s probably going to be working very hard to make sure it does when the time comes. Very much agree with that. Money (awful word) is made from tours these days, so why would you waste your promo bullets on 2020 when the tour is postponed to 2021 ? That's the first reference I've seen to tickets not selling well, but if that is the case would all ticket sales not have been in covid times so there was never a chance that they would sell well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Suuus said: Sinds when are you a moderator also how people stop making these flambait threads I’m not a moderator. Never claimed to be. I tried to stop the argument. You can never make everyone happy here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowlicker 3,522 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, MOT said: Very much agree with that. Money (awful word) is made from tours these days, so why would you waste your promo bullets on 2020 when the tour is postponed to 2021 ? That's the first reference I've seen to tickets not selling well, but if that is the case would all ticket sales not have been in covid times so there was never a chance that they would sell well ? I think we could assume that, but I don’t think at that point anyone realized how bad things would get. Companies like Live Nation for instance were hesitant to outright cancel anything thinking it would go back to normal in a matter of weeks. Unfortunately things got much worse thanks to the current administration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, SoSourCandy said: and this even shows how much she didnt cared at all. imagine making a song your lead single after leaking a MONTH before everyone heard and overplayed already. its simple she doesnt care and ruined the era that everyone was waiting for with high hopes. she just find out she makes easy money from make up in late 2019 and thats it. who needs to sell albums when u can sell lipsticks? right? why she just cant go back to being an artist from NYC. she was just too cool back then. and it truly hurts what she become now. This is so frustrating. Gaga had an era planned, things got in the way, she went on with life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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