Flawless 2,218 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Not betrayed but definetly disappointed. Chromatica was promised as her triunfal return to dance music, and all we got were blackouts and a non-event era. Don't get me wrong, the album is one of my favorites by her but the lack of presence really killed the vibe for me. the scars on my mind are on replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb the flame 7,321 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Suuus said: I dont know if it helps but i did see 2 post from gaga this week and they didnt seem product related I mentioned she's posted selfies the last two days and I hope she's feeling better now but I'll admit my comment quickly skimmed over that part. 37 minutes ago, numb the flame said: She has been posting selfies the last few days so I'm hoping maybe she's feeling okay now and maybe the communication between Gaga and us will be a little less sparse and dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 The dramatics omg If Gaga not providing enough “promo” upsets you all this much I think that’s kind of unhealthy It’s just pop music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Betrayed is a really strong word. She just didn't live up to your expectations of what you wanted her to be and do. I wish Gaga would interact more like she used to but honestly I get why not. Millions and millions of screaming fans telling you what to do, wear, sing, act like. The constant pressure, the lack of boundaries by fans. She knows how much her music means to us, thats why she does it but she shouldn't have to feel the burden of my mental health either. Tldr; I get what you mean but yeah I just dont mind about the rest aslong as there is the music. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 8,898 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, r4therupbeat said: yep. and it affects my mental health and mood on daily basis coming here with nothing to discuss but the lack of connection or promo. her music and art and connection she had with us always helped me. but now it's gone for no apparent reason and it is frustrating. in before she starts promoting SC in Jan when there will be riots about the death penalty in America and she has to cancel for the 3rd time all of her schedule. Maybe consider Gaga’s mental health and mood instead of just your own and being frustrated for something that’s out of her control? It’s a known fact that Gaga suffers from depression so who knows if she’s going through a particularly rough time right now. Some of you would do well to show her a little compassion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 25,376 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Betrayed is a strong word, she didn't make any promise and doesn't owe me anything personally. Confused tho? Hell yeah, I have no clue what's going on and pretty much gave up on this era a long time ago. I'm just glad we have an album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4therupbeat 1,587 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, modern ecstasy said: Maybe consider Gaga’s mental health and mood instead of just your own and being frustrated for something that’s out of her control? It’s a known fact that Gaga suffers from depression so who knows if she’s going through a particularly rough time right now. Some of you would do well to show her a little compassion. who tf are you to tell me what to do with my mental health? first of and second none of us know if she is depressed rn or her not talking to us anymore is relating to that. I said she is gone for no apparent/uknown reason. if anything she said chromatica healed her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide555 587 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 .... I think "betrayed" is a massive overreaction. Gaga, along with her team... didn't adapt, they clearly planned for a traditional rollout with run-of-the-mill promo and when all their plans were butchered they just kinda shrugged their shoulders and served us a half baked era (sans 911 and the VMA's). Am I disappointed? As a fan - sure I am, I think we're all a little disappointed that this era had so much untapped potential. They could have done so much, even in-spite of the pandemic but here we are... nearly a year after the era launched and it barely felt like we had an album campaign to enjoy. That being said... this all comes back to fan entitlement - Gaga is going to do what Gaga feels like doing... if she wants to put her feet up, take some time for herself, work on new projects or take up a new gig as a dentist she's more than entitled to do so... she doesn't owe us anything... In all honesty I'm just happy we have a decent album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,565 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I’m bored but not betrayed. As super fans, we need to trust that she’s trying to be there for us, despite mental and emotional struggles Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide555 587 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 In addition; I also think the relationship Gaga has with her fans has always slightly edged on unhealthy... and I think at some point it got to her... just look at the Five Foot Two documentary, I honestly think she just took the time to revaluate her boundaries and how much of herself she wants to put out into the ether.... Lady Gaga is a pop-star, she's not a messiah and she's not obligated to create art for anybody but herself... still, doesn't mean I'm not going to criticise whatever she decides to share with us, that's a whole other conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 You thinking her not promoting is betrayal is... wow. The entitlement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Beethoven 205 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Nah, Gaga doesn’t control my emotions Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Peroxide555 said: In addition; I also think the relationship Gaga has with her fans has always slightly edged on unhealthy... and I think at some point it got to her... just look at the Five Foot Two documentary, I honestly think she just took the time to revaluate her boundaries and how much of herself she wants to put out into the ether.... Lady Gaga is a pop-star, she's not a messiah and she's not obligated to create art for anybody but herself... still, doesn't mean I'm not going to criticise whatever she decides to share with us, that's a whole other conversation. I agree. The “betrayal” thing the OP mentions does make me realize how Gaga created such an unhealthy and dependent relationship with her fans, that’s why so many of them feel like they need her in order to survive, they depend so much on her presence. And it’s understandable, she’s the one who set herself up as a mother, as a savior and champion for the outcasts, and thus established a very strong cult following. Now that she’s had to take a step back because that dynamic proved to be harmful for her mental health (ARTPOP being the era that dynamic with her fans got really messy and bad for her), her fans feel like betrayed and orphaned, because they’re too clingy and attached to her now. Like stated in that other thread, that’s why a relationship like the one Taylor or Ariana have with their fans is better. They can perfectly interact with their fans without any risks, because they’ve cultivated a fanbase that while very passionate, treat them like human beings. But like I said, it all comes down to how an artist establishes their fanbase, and the way Gaga did it was not sustainable in the long run, and ended up creating a very toxic cult-like following instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,513 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I do not feel betrayed or lost at all. Not even disappointed. Gaga is a person living her life. I know some of her decisions disappoint people, but she has her own considerations and feelings about things. We can't assume the reasons for what she does. We also can't assume anything about her physical or mental health. It's just wrong to make assumptions. I feel sorry that some people feel Gaga has left them when she is less active than they would like. It seems people feel like this short melancholy song. But take heart. Gaga isn't leaving us. We are not left with just a photograph. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide555 587 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jose P said: I agree. The “betrayal” thing the OP mentions does make me realize how Gaga created such an unhealthy and dependent relationship with her fans, that’s why so many of them feel like they need her in order to survive, they depend so much on her presence. And it’s understandable, she’s the one who set herself up as a mother, as a savior and champion for the outcasts, and thus established a very strong cult following. Now that she’s had to take a step back because that dynamic proved to be harmful for her mental health (ARTPOP being the era that dynamic with her fans got really messy and bad for her), her fans feel like betrayed and orphaned, because they’re too clingy and attached to her now. Like stated in that other thread, that’s why a relationship like the one Taylor or Ariana have with their fans is better. They can perfectly interact with their fans without any risks, because they’ve cultivated a fanbase that while very passionate, treat them like human beings. But like I said, it all comes down to how an artist establishes their fanbase, and the way Gaga did it was not sustainable in the long run, and ended up creating a very toxic cult-like following instead. I agree with pretty much all of this... Taylor's fan base has always been extremely die-hard, but not to the extreme Gaga's was back in 2011/2012, Gaga talked about her fans as if they were the blood running through her actual veins... I do think Gaga needs to detach herself from that role in a way which is a little more... blunt? It's funny looking back now, she was 23/24 when she adopted her "mother of all freaks and outcasts" persona, and she was SO young... no way she could have imagined the long term impact on both herself and those that legitimately adopted her as parental figure. I know a lot of this is speculative, but a lot of her behaviour is pretty telling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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