JoliesLips 233 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 The dramatics uff Love GaGa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 54,466 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Can people just recognise the simple difference between 'deliberate misgendering' and 'accidental neglect'. Which one does Shawn seem like? You're saying he was aware that Sam wanted to be referred to with the pronoun 'they/them' but deliberately went against their wishes? Or is it more plausible to surmise that Shawn had temporarily not thought of that issue because maybe it wasn't in his mind a lot. It does not mean that he is homo/trans-phobic or anything. It was just a slip of tongue. Shawn does not seem to be a very disrespectful person and there really is no reason to show why would offend the LGBT community deliberately like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 18,905 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ceminay said: Thank god in my language, male, female, trans, cat, alligator, whatever, are all "it". I regularly mix up he and she in English even speaking with cis people, it seems so confusing to think of a person as a gender while talking about them at that moment. Which language is it? You popped my heart seams, all my bubble dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 littlepotter 72,160 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, MJHolland said: You're literally acting like these are two nobodies that walked passed each other on the street They're both A list celebrity musicians, it's hard to imagine Shawn didn't know Sam's pronouns it literally made front page news And you shouldn't really be defending Shawn until he does what's right and apologizes.  Ew I actually hate how regressive you all are (not specifically you, potter), it makes me happy Gaga starves this fanbase LMAO If we're not gonna agree that there's a difference between intentionally using incorrect pronouns to disrespect someone, and unintentionally using someone's past pronouns, then there's no use going back and forth. I believe Shawn should apologize publicly in order to normalize apologizing for getting someone's pronouns wrong or forgetting them. But to actually demonize people for not thinking Shawn is a monster for doing this? chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence 1,444 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 yall need to chillout. yall need to give people some breathing room to learn. not jump on them and attack the second they messup. yall know damn well shawn mendes's goody two shoes ass didnt mean any harm and probably forgot or just doesnt know. move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletubby 113,433 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 It was pre-recorded so also people who edited iHeart Jingle Ball didn't notice it  @Cello is my â*¡ę¤. eternal sunshine ・Ëâ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookerOnAChurch 6,637 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFXIV WhiteMage 4,976 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 It's the responsibility of the event organizer to detail out and know every circumstances of the participants. They should've also disseminated the information - if they did researched about it.  Also, I think Sam's party should've reminded them as well since NB pronounce is not yet well known to the public. Despite Sam's A-list status and media exposure, we all know how fast people forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauntingHollow 4,310 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Lol he had no idea just like the rest of the world that does not lurk the gay side of the internet for 18 hours a day You can not hide if nobody pays attention to you :* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 23,179 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Lmfao at the little dramatics on here. He most likely didn't know as he doesn't sit his ass all day long to follow celebrities' news. He didn't mean to diss Sam Smith and he doesn't have a reason to do so. Chile, nobody is denying the existence of anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 as a trans female, getting misgendered was so common back in my pre-trans years. it does hurt, so i hope Sam is ok, as iâm sure it wasnât intentional. shawn seems super mature, so why are we dragging him over a minor hiccup? if he pulls a kevin hart thats when we should pull him up for it. we have to keep in mind most heterosexual people arenât as educated about non-binary identities and the community overall. itâs not about âthey should knowâ etc. they donât. thatâs the reality of it. letâs instead educate people instead of dragging/cancelling them over a mistake. this is why we are losing potential allies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 5,495 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, HauntingHollow said: Lol he had no idea just like the rest of the world that does not lurk the gay side of the internet for 18 hours a day Thank you lol. Some people are just pushing trial of intents to get something to call out in order to look like the good guys. I can't believe the audacity to say being famous means you have to know each coming out in show business therefore deserves to be bashed and lectured about "knowing better". No one has to spend time knowing about others identities. These convos are always filled with nb folks deniers or people trying hard to show they're not like the first group but it's vile to see how obvious it is rather done for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREEPALESTINE 285 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 lowwl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Im gonna stay out of this one "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 alsemanche 85,615 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I doubt this is on purpose, these things slip all the time. If it's intentional then obviously I hope he rots, but I really don't think he did it with harm in mind. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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