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Grammy CEO speaks on The Weeknd omission, explains their process


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LilyLark

Yeah, this is a weird explanation that doesn't make much sense.

 

Also, leaving aside Abel's immense commercial success....After Hours was critically acclaimed. Sure, there have been higher ranking albums on metacritic but Billie's album was only 2 points higher....

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AlexanderMagno
7 minutes ago, River said:

"In other words, the Pop committee may have considered him R&B and the R&B committee considered him Pop."

THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WITH THE RACIST MUSIC INDUSTRY AND THE COMMITTEES

The album is R&B-Pop, it could be nominated in all the categories without a problem.

Blinding Lights is more pop than R&B, while In Your Eyes is more R&B than pop

Those f-ckers just can't handle a black artist doing pop and being called POP

How weird must be for an album that excells at incorporating several genres (in fact, like most great albums do) not to be nominated for excellency awards because it doesn't fit any genre :billie:

Plus, how weird that this doesn't explain why it wasn't nominated for the "genre-free" Album of the Year title :billie:

 

****, I'm old enough not to be mad about this but I am so mad :billie:

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StarstruckIllusion

Yummy is hot garage lmao there is 000 excuse 

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53 minutes ago, Bradley said:

I'm not saying the Weeknd snubs are justified, but pop stans need to realise that the process is not just selecting the most popular artists. It's not about choosing the albums and singles that made the 'most noise'. While popularity does play a role in affecting the chances of getting nominated, it does not guarantee it. Otherwise, how would non-pop acts fare in face of pop acts who chart extremely well? If you really look at the process, it's music experts sitting down to talk technicalities, and I don't think they'd go "Hey let's reward this because it has a billion streams".

:lmao:

Yeah that's why Shape Of You won a Grammy, sheer excellence. If Blinding Lights, which is both massively acclaimed and massively successful, was by someone like Ed Sheeran it would have been nominated for even gospel categories. :toofunny:

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Mister G

I'd also like the point out that the argument made by The Academy about the genre not matching the artist's style historically is dumber than doorknobs. Joanne is categorized as a Pop Album; yet we all know that the bulk of that album was all Country and Rock with some Indie. And like with her AMA win for Best Artist - EDM, Gaga has never been considered an EDM Artist to the likes of individuals like Martin Garrix, Tiesto, Hardwell, Dmitri Vegas, etc...so am I missing something? Grammy's need to do better; today was proof of how badly they failed the music industry.

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Monster7

I get the awards should go to the best songs/albums, not the most succesful ones, but in this case After Hours is an INCREDIBLE album, includes nowadays pop, r&b and 80s elements in a cohesive way. And Blinding Lights is arguably the best song released this year:dom:

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RichAssPiss

The General Field categories at the Grammys are a fraud. The choose 7 out of the 20 finalists based on no set criteria, opening up the major nominations to bias and personal favoritism. 

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Mister G
5 minutes ago, RichAssPiss said:

The General Field categories at the Grammys are a fraud. The choose 7 out of the 20 finalists based on no set criteria, opening up the major nominations to bias and personal favoritism. 

Take it one step further; it's a literal popularity contest.

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freebit
12 minutes ago, Mister G said:

I'd also like the point out that the argument made by The Academy about the genre not matching the artist's style historically is dumber than doorknobs. Joanne is categorized as a Pop Album; yet we all know that the bulk of that album was all Country and Rock with some Indie. And like with her AMA win for Best Artist - EDM, Gaga has never been considered an EDM Artist to the likes of individuals like Martin Garrix, Tiesto, Hardwell, Dmitri Vegas, etc...so am I missing something?

I think the mess here is that the Grammys have those panels that have the power to nominate or remove an artist. That system is clearly flawed if these people suddenly can't decide what category someone's music should go in, so they don't nominate them at all. If any of them are biased, they could torpedo an artists chances (he says they aren't but who is going to advertise that and give up their seat on these prestigous panels?)

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venusfly

Including Justin over the weeknd is highly insulting but to be honest After Hours IS his weakest work yet, a lot of expensive imagery but label generated pop music behind it.

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RichAssPiss
4 minutes ago, Mister G said:

Take it one step further; it's a literal popularity contest.

Not even. A popularity contest requires you to garner the favor of the entire voting body. In this instance, you need to just get support from a few people on a committee. Anecdotally, stories have leaked about all types of committee conflicts of interest. You end up with an album in Album of the Year that couldn't even get into its genre category where there is less competition. The major awards don't reflect what is popular with voters. Just a few secret hands in the mix. 

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