Lighter 15,376 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 For me Dope’s spot was a wasted opportunity for Onion Girl or TEA or Brooklyn Nights which lost its spot to Mary Jane Holland. The placement of the song probably confused so many people in the process of listening to a dance album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 92,288 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Dope is an essential ARTPOP song. The message and the emotions behind it are very important for the album and I think it would be lacking without it. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Babylon 2,765 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, alsemanche said: Dope is an essential ARTPOP song. The message and the emotions behind it are very important for the album and I think it would be lacking without it. End Thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 22,299 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 What? Brooklyn Night has nothing to do on ARTPOP. Dope is one of the most important songs on the album. It's when the fantasy disappears and reality suddenly shows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo 3,797 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think it’s meant to represent the come down after all the drugs sang about in Mary Jane Holland. I personally love Dope and think it’s good on ARTPOP but I know loads of others disagree www.youtube.com/jmremixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 22,299 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 To comment again, I'd say that Brooklyn Night's production fits perfectly with ARTPOP, but the song itself (the melody, her delievery) sounds very Born This Way, with Joanne lyrics. Not that it would matter, cause Yoü And I has nothing to do on Born This Way either, but imo Dope remains the best choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastertoyo 22,728 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 In the “context” of the album and whatever we wanna decide the concept is and how it fits. I don’t understand why I Wanna Be With U was turned into Dope and put on the album this is the reason why I’m personally finding myself asking why Dope is there, especially when the first version is superior please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolkins 4,110 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 It depends on whether you believe the rumours that there was an ARTPOP 1.0 - I think it’s accepted that she had an album ready for the first quarter of 2013 but her label forced her to rethink some elements. ‘I wanna be with you’ was first tweeted about in February 2013, which makes me believe that she wrote and included that song because she was asked to. Obviously that song then became Dope which I much prefer as it 10000% less cheesy. Not the bore worms! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celloo Deng 53,987 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, JoeMo said: I think it’s meant to represent the come down after all the drugs sang about in Mary Jane Holland. I personally love Dope and think it’s good on ARTPOP but I know loads of others disagree Exactly this! Dope is placed straight after MJH to show the contrast of the high and the comedown. It fits perfectly in the album. i try to live in black & white but i'm so blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 21,641 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Blastertoyo said: In the “context” of the album and whatever we wanna decide the concept is and how it fits. I don’t understand why I Wanna Be With U was turned into Dope and put on the album this is the reason why I’m personally finding myself asking why Dope is there, especially when the first version is superior Are you kidding me? IWBWYs lyrics are cringy next to Dope’s. Dope is a fully realized song with a very poetic lyrical content that represents the moment when the aura vanishes and there’s left just the girl who was hiding behind it who’s very hurt and alone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Nox 39 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Important or not - I hate Dope. Can't listen to this song. And it's sad because I LOVED I Wanna be with U. I listened to Brooklyn Nights 10 times more than Dope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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