AOC drags faux election analysis, speaks truth to power

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I love her  And I hate politicians. 

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8 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

Cori Bush is litterally in St. Louis. A major city, Missouri's second. Her district is 99% urbanized. If you can find me a progressive candidate that's winning 60% rural districts, let me know.

Um? Land doesn’t vote. Poor struggling people don’t only exist in deserted towns. The same economic left policies that excite rural Americans, excite the working poor in the city and suburbs too. The fact she beat the neolib dynasty that was Laci Clay is something notable. 

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1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Don’t know what’s safe about a swing seat... they literally used to be republicans seats. Read the 4th tweet in the OP. These aren’t New York and San Francisco voters were talking about. Even Cori Bush won in red-ass Missouri. Progressive policies do not hurt people’s chances 

 

Bernie’s campaign slogan was literally “Not me, Us...” what?? Bernie knew he’d have to use the power of activism to get policy done if he ever became president. Plus Cori Bush and others winning is getting a lot of attention online... there’s attention outside the presidential race.

also no need for a rebrand, Bernie and M4A are still popular and favoured and don’t need your personal approval. Anyone not voting for a good policy bc of who its attached to is idiotic and rarely happens. Like, when Florida just secured Bernie’s living wage policy, but not Biden themselves. 

The people who use “far left” seriously, don’t care about its popularity. M4A increased in popularity despite being called too radical all primary long. Good ideas are just good ideas. 

I mean we lost Florida because of Bernie and socialism stigma. We didn't win a minimum wage increase because it's attached to Bernie. It would be delusional to think that. Bernie would have lost Florida by a greater margin. Why do you care so much about rebranding a good idea? Messaging is super important. 

“Not me, Us...” is an absolutely terrible campaign slogan. Hello, the first two word in Bernie's campaign is "not me."   Clearly that flop campaign slogan did not help Bernie win the primaries. Who wants a to be President, "not me" who wants a better country "not me" who wants the message of his campaign to be about the people, "not me" it was almost as terrible as Hillary's Love Trump's hate where the first two words are literally "Love Trump" it's like the far left and center left cannot deliver a clear message. This is what I am saying. I am not saying the policies are bad but the messaging is super unclear. At the end of the day why not change the message to get a policy passed. Isn't the policy what's important? Why does it matter what it's called as long as it's called something that won't alienate people and gets passed.

It's like when Norwegian Cruise Lise decided to change their slogan to, "Why not?" There is a Million Reasons.mp4 why we should not take a cruise. Tag lines like that only focus on the negative.

I don't follow Cori Bush so I don't know what her campaign looked like, but she won a district that in the  2018 election went 80.10% Democrat and she only managed to bring in 78.9% of the Democratic vote. So there is that. I mean is that left progressives goal to win heavily Democratic areas. Why is she getting so much attention? 

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6 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

In a few years when the Democratic Party becomes the new Republican Party (while the old Republican Party perverts itself into a Trumpian-level cult), all these moderate Democrats will be sorry that they allowed their party to degrade. 

well i should hope not, progressives need moderate democrats to win in my opinion, and vice versa. if the moderate democrats break off and join conservatives, we liberals will not win a presidential election for a very.... very... long time. 

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3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I mean we lost Florida because of Bernie and socialism stigma. We didn't win a minimum wage increase because it's attached to Bernie. It would be delusional to think that. Bernie would have lost Florida by a greater margin. Why do you care so much about rebranding a good idea? Messaging is super important. 

“Not me, Us...” is an absolutely terrible campaign slogan. Hello, the first two word in Bernie's campaign is "not me."   Clearly that flop campaign slogan did not help Bernie win the primaries. Who wants a to be President, "not me" who wants a better country "not me" who wants the message of his campaign to be about the people, "not me" it was almost as terrible as Hillary's Love Trump's hate where the first two words are literally "Love Trump" it's like the far left and center left cannot deliver a clear message. This is what I am saying. I am not saying the policies are bad but the messaging is super unclear. At the end of the day why not change the message to get a policy passed. Isn't the policy what's important? Why does it matter what it's called as long as it's called something that won't alienate people and gets passed.

It's like when Norwegian Cruise Lise decided to change their slogan to, "Why not?" There is a Million Reasons.mp4 why we should not take a cruise. Tag lines like that only focus on the negative.

I don't follow Cori Bush so I don't know what her campaign looked like, but she won a district that in the  2018 election went 80.10% Democrat and she only managed to bring in 78.9% of the Democratic vote. So there is that. I mean is that left progressives goal to win heavily Democratic areas. Why is she getting so much attention? 

Bernie won Floridian Cubans in the primary, despite losing Florida. Clearly not that much people care. Florida said “economic left policy first, please” and meant it bc Biden still lost the state. I don’t care about rebranding when M4A’s popularity is rising... you’re the one who thinks its toxic bc “its married to Bernie”

and... what

“Not me, Us” is an amazing slogan because it means politics should be more than just the president doing things without the consent of the people. You don’t just get to cut the slogan in half and draw some out of pocket meaning. Chile literally what. was. that. Sorry but that paragraph was absolutely unhinged. Hillary’s selfish and clownish slogan cannot be beat.

Cori won against a neolib dynasty on a progressive platform. If you want progressive dems slaying in swing districts, they exist.

 

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1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Don’t know what’s safe about a swing seat... they literally used to be republicans seats. Read the 4th tweet in the OP. These aren’t New York and San Francisco voters were talking about. Even Cori Bush won in red-ass Missouri. Progressive policies do not hurt people’s chances 

 

Bernie’s campaign slogan was literally “Not me, Us...” what?? Bernie knew he’d have to use the power of activism to get policy done if he ever became president. Plus Cori Bush and others winning is getting a lot of attention online... there’s attention outside the presidential race.

also no need for a rebrand, Bernie and M4A are still popular and favoured and don’t need your personal approval. Anyone not voting for a good policy bc of who its attached to is idiotic and rarely happens. Like, when Florida just secured Bernie’s living wage policy, but not Biden themselves. 

The people who use “far left” seriously, don’t care about its popularity. M4A increased in popularity despite being called too radical all primary long. Good ideas are just good ideas. 

I disagree. If any group doesn’t care about the popularity of a particular idea or policy then there would be no point in promoting them or trying to win elections. The whole point of pushing a policy is specifically to increase its popularity. 

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19 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Bernie won Floridian Cubans in the primary, despite losing Florida. Clearly not that much people care. Florida said “economic left policy first, please” and meant it bc Biden still lost the state. I don’t care about rebranding when M4A’s popularity is rising... you’re the one who thinks its toxic bc “its married to Bernie”

and... what

“Not me, Us” is an amazing slogan because it means politics should be more than just the president doing things without the consent of the people. You don’t just get to cut the slogan in half and draw some out of pocket meaning. Chile literally what. was. that. Sorry but that paragraph was absolutely unhinged. Hillary’s selfish and clownish slogan cannot be beat.

Cori won against a neolib dynasty on a progressive platform. If you want progressive dems slaying in swing districts, they exist.

 

Bernie did not win FL Cubans in the primary. Who lied to you? Bernie didn't win a single county in Florida during the primary. Stop with the FL Bernie misinformation. As a matter of fact in the highest Cuban density district 381 in FL, Bernie came in third behind Biden and Bloomberg. 

I am so tired of talking about Bernie, but I more tired of misinformation.

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6 hours ago, Contessa said:

A bunch of stubborn gays fighting day in and day out about the same few things is hardly a conversation. The same people argue the same points in every thread. 

This tea tho

anyway

PERIOOOTTTTT

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19 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I am so tired of talking about Bernie, but I more tired of misinformation.

This is clearly a lie because you haven't stopped talking about him since last year  centrists' obsession with discrediting bernie so ****ing funny, your guy won, can you give it a rest?

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6 hours ago, Contessa said:

A bunch of stubborn gays fighting day in and day out about the same few things is hardly a conversation. The same people argue the same points in every thread. 

Imo it's not just the same folks only convincing themselves each time when you see how GGD went clearly more on the left in a relatively short time.

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3 hours ago, Born This Way said:

I love her  And I hate politicians. 

I'm not sure if you have watched it, but the documentary "Knock The House Down" is great and features her rise into politics.

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She's a hypocrite

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5 hours ago, littlepotter said:

This is clearly a lie because you haven't stopped talking about him since last year  centrists' obsession with discrediting bernie so ****ing funny, your guy won, can you give it a rest?

I guess the last part of my comment went over your head. I won't stop correcting people when they lie saying things like "Bernie won the Cuban vote in FL." 

 

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5 hours ago, bionic said:

She's a hypocrite

Huh?? Telling a guy who wants to turn democrats against each other by ostarcizing the far left and accusing them of almost making them lose makes her a hypocrite? That guy isn't even a democrat! Yall just love to hate on this woman for no reason

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16 hours ago, Contessa said:

A bunch of stubborn gays fighting day in and day out about the same few things is hardly a conversation. The same people argue the same points in every thread. 

You're allowed to start your own thread about what you'd like to discuss instead. That's the concept of an online forum.