TSUNAMI 20,669 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,780 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: If you listen to both records side by side, ARTPOP isn’t all that different to Born This Way. This is a hate crime This was said the day Applause was released and I do not get it She has never released the same thing (except Judas having a similar structure to BR) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaism 10,388 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 One of the most iconic albums, the cover, the hype, the aesthetics, the fashion and the peak of her artistic freedom. For me is her best, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromaticainmyhead 6,470 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On retrospective people will look back on her career and talk about ARTPOP as the album where she was the most misunderstood but her most interesting era when you take it into the context of how she‘s seen the world over the years. fan-tas-tique, chic, freak, slaaaay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlinforme 5,188 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Does this count for Metacritic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritBunny 3,480 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: If you listen to both records side by side, ARTPOP isn’t all that different to Born This Way. This is a hate crime I know sis! Why would they shade ARTPOP that way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,687 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: If you listen to both records side by side, ARTPOP isn’t all that different to Born This Way. This is a hate crime wbk, btw is a mess chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 25,386 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 It's a bit all over the place, but that's why we love her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 96,041 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 👏OKAY👏BUT👏WHERE👏WAS👏THE👏ARTPOP👏IS👏GREAT👏BANDWAGON👏WHEN👏WE👏ACTUALLY👏NEEDED👏IT👏 If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierryrreiht 20,867 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 "Upon its November release, just over 18 months after Born This Way," They literally erased the whole 2012 year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggs 2,690 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I enjoyed the article until the obligatory Joanne slander turned up. But these things are cyclical, Joanne will have its critical re-evaluation moment too when enough time has passed. The truth about ARTPOP is it probably did deserve its mixed reception. It's not the disaster of an album some would have you believe, but it is thematically incoherent, the quality of the songs is uneven, and the production is a bit messy and garish and dated. At that point in her career, Gaga probably should have taken her sound somewhere unexpected rather than just ploughing deeper down that loud, bombastic dance-pop furrow. But there are enough high-points on the album for the project to have been a worthwhile chapter in the Gaga story. Songs like Swine, ARTPOP, Do What You Want, and Sexxx Dreams all stand out to me as particularly valuable additions to her discography. Even misfires like Aura and Jewels and Drugs are fascinating in their own way, and stand as testament to the sheer boldness and audacity Gaga had at that point in her career. I'd prefer messy, abrasive, difficult album like ARTPOP from Gaga over something more coherent, immediately likeable but dull any day of the week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy 3,213 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 tbh i can definitely see why they see BTW and AP as sistren both are bombastic, experimental, try on a variety of genres, and her longest albums (17 and 15 tracks respectively). Born This Way is much darker, ARTPOP much lighter, and both she hyped up as watershed albums. ARTPOP is as integral a part of Gaga's career as Born This Way, and one of her most captivating – whether you hate it or love it, you can't deny the impact it's had regardless. Now that Gaga's repeaked and gotten the GP back on her side, the controversy/bad press/negative reaction to ARTPOP honestly adds to the album's allure. Is there another album in Gaga's discography that's more fiercely debated? Even among pop albums, or even significant albums in general, ARTPOP has been a persistent topic of discussion for the last 7 years (so much so that "someone's ARTPOP era" has become part of internet speak). Maybe it didn't have the hits of TF, the critical acclaim of TFM, or the intricacy of BTW, but AP has nonetheless wrestled its way into pop culture consciousness – and that's why these critics are still coming back to it 7 years later. Revisiting the album for the sake of the individual songs themselves, and not a "reverse-Warholian experience", I think a lot of critics are like, "Wait, why was this album hated so much?" It still sold 2.5 million copies in a little over two months, had 2 Top 10 singles, and while you could say it's not cohesive, each song on its own has its own merits. I think the farther away from ARTPOP we get, the more and more people will begin to realize it's actually a phenomenal pop album. Had it been released in 2020, there's no doubt the streaming era would have been kinder. Now the mainstream readily accepts the brash, hard-hitting, riskiness music of ARTPOP. Back in 2013? Nope. Truly an album ahead of its time, and I'm so glad Gagz has one of those in her discography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiamond 6,286 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Fish said: better than JOanne that is for sure delete this I see what u did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiamond 6,286 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, thierryrreiht said: "Upon its November release, just over 18 months after Born This Way," They literally erased the whole 2012 year gags did not release then so its quite logical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 22,313 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, MaryJaneHolland said: If you listen to both records side by side, ARTPOP isn’t all that different to Born This Way. This is a hate crime Marry The Night - Aura Government Hooker - G.U.Y. Judas - Sexxx Dreams Americano - Jewels N' Drugs Hair - MANiCURE Scheiße - Do What U Want Bloody Mary - ARTPOP Bad Kids - Swine Road To Love - Donatella Heavy Metal Lover - Fashion! Electric Chapel - Mary Jane Holland Not that different, indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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