Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: Axios

[gabeoz 7,915]

1 minute ago, LateToCult said:

I wouldn’t get my hopes up about FL. Miami-Dade and Broward county Democrats are underperforming so far. For Biden to win he’s gonna need a great turnout on Election Day and have a greater chunk of independents go his way. Not impossible but it’s also not secured.

Yeah, Miami turnout is less than we hoped, but its going to come down to the wire either way. Independents swing much more towards Biden so im not worried there, in the end it'll come down to how many Trump voters show up on Tuesday. Even then, as I just said in a different post, Biden just needs to win one of those Southern/Sunbelt battleground states. Trump cannot win without them even if he takes PA, MI and WI are just way too far out of reach for him. 

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14 minutes ago, lady siwa said:

the military heavily supports him tho........ like they're part of his cult....... he was the one sending them into cities across country just months ago to violently arrest and attack protesters for no reason and they blindly followed him? 

The military will remove him. That's our law and if he loses, he has no power but to be removed if he won't go willingly.

[BUtterfield 8 41,818]

Just now, frederiickx said:

The military will remove him. That's our law and if he loses, he has no power but to be removed if he won't go willingly.

I don’t know why everyone thinks it’s gonna get to that point 

I know ppl think trump is stupid but if the team says he loses he’ll leave peacefully 

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17 minutes ago, lady siwa said:

I agree but if Trump declares himself winner before anything is official there is no chance his base is going to listen to ANYONE other than him even after all the votes are counted and even if he isn't the actual winner

Right, but anything less than a Trump victory for them will automatically make them question the election, whether or not Trump "declares victory" early or not. Biden could win by a 400-something electoral landslide and they'll still find some way to be like, "THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED!!!!!1"

[LateToCult 41,861]

3 minutes ago, gabeoz said:

Yeah, Miami turnout is less than we hoped, but its going to come down to the wire either way. Independents swing much more towards Biden so im not worried there, in the end it'll come down to how many Trump voters show up on Tuesday. Even then, as I just said in a different post, Biden just needs to win one of those Southern/Sunbelt battleground states. Trump cannot win without them even if he takes PA, MI and WI are just way too far out of reach for him. 

Just our luck that Pennsylvania is gonna make us wait but Florida is gonna give it to us fast. 

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18 minutes ago, lady siwa said:

the military heavily supports him tho........ like they're part of his cult....... he was the one sending them into cities across country just months ago to violently arrest and attack protesters for no reason and they blindly followed him? 

Not necessarily. The military does what he says because he's the commander in chief. There are a lot of military people who are Trump supporters, sure, but they're not the same as his blind followers. There's also a lot of military people who dislike Trump too. 

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6 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

I wouldn’t get my hopes up about FL. Miami-Dade and Broward county Democrats are underperforming so far. For Biden to win he’s gonna need a great turnout on Election Day and have a greater chunk of independents go his way. Not impossible but it’s also not secured.

It’s interesting that Trump is doing better with Latin@s in Florida compared to 2016, and not just the older Cubans who are reliably conservative. But, this looks to be offset by Trump losing some older voters (who do not like his handling of COVID-19) and college educated whites across Florida.

[LateToCult 41,861]

Just now, caulixtla said:

It’s interesting that Trump is doing better with Latin@s in Florida compared to 2016, and not just the older Cubans who are reliably conservative. But, this looks to be offset by Trump losing some older voters (who do not like his handling of COVID-19) and college educated whites across Florida.

I’m not completely surprised. Latino and Black voters were targeted with misinformation by right-wingers. I’ve seen the results in my own family and I’d be willing to bet it’s something that happened all over the country. 

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1 minute ago, LateToCult said:

Just our luck that Pennsylvania is gonna make us wait but Florida is gonna give it to us fast. 

Oh yeah definitely, it sucks. But the hope is that if Biden just takes NC or AZ (GA is pretty unlikely but he is polling ahead) and has a decent enough lead in MN and WI then Trump is over. He can try to argue to the courts about counting mail in ballots but it wont make enough of a difference at that point. The issue for Trump is these battleground states are looking even worse for him. The last of the polling data came in today and Biden's lead in most is just huge with A+ pollers. Of course nothing is official until election day. But polls almost always are accurate within their margin of error. And right now Trump is just too far outside of that margin, he is going to need a turnout miracle. But again, we cant be cocky we have to bring out as many as we can to vote because nothing is official until the actual election.

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I said this would happen, on this board, about a month or two ago. 
 

Not that I’m a genius for saying it, but Trump is just that predictable. We need every last vote to make the the results indisputable. Otherwise he will use the courts, and they’re stacked with his cronies. 

[LateToCult 41,861]

9 minutes ago, gabeoz said:

Oh yeah definitely, it sucks. But the hope is that if Biden just takes NC or AZ (GA is pretty unlikely but he is polling ahead) and has a decent enough lead in MN and WI then Trump is over. He can try to argue to the courts about counting mail in ballots but it wont make enough of a difference at that point. The issue for Trump is these battleground states are looking even worse for him. The last of the polling data came in today and Biden's lead in most is just huge with A+ pollers. Of course nothing is official until election day. But polls almost always are accurate within their margin of error. And right now Trump is just too far outside of that margin, he is going to need a turnout miracle. But again, we cant be cocky we have to bring out as many as we can to vote because nothing is official until the actual election.

I’m a little more optimistic about Georgia. They’re already past 94% of the total 2016 turnout. I take that as a very good sign for Biden because Dems usually benefit from a high turnout. It’s not over until it’s over but I can say I have more confidence in GA than FL. 

[gabeoz 7,915]

12 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

I’m a little more optimistic about Georgia. They’re already past 94% of the total 2016 turnout. I take that as a very good sign for Biden because Dems usually benefit from a high turnout. It’s not over until it’s over but I can say I have more confidence in GA than FL. 

Yeah, I think some of the results for Biden may be surprising states like GA and TX, but with them being historically red states my expectations are really low. I think GA will come down with really close within 1-2points, but I do think Biden does have a pretty good shot at being able to take the state. Im really intrigued with how TX will go, early voting shattered the total votes from 2016 and with Texas not tracking voting demographics by party affiliation it's going to be interesting to see how the numbers pan out Tuesday night. 

NC is another race to look closely at too. With the dem governor expected to win in a large landslide (keep in mind he barely won in 2016, and the incumbent at the time thought he would win by ordering a recount in my hometown... one of the most liberal cities in the country) and devastating losses statewide for republicans since 2016, combined with a fact that the key voters are suburban voters and easily swing either way. It's going to be interesting to see how it goes.

[lady siwa 967]

46 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

This is what the law says

since when has trump followed laws 

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45 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

If Trump loses Florida, it's game over for him

Florida and Texas or else he got his chance

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Just now, lady siwa said:

since when has trump followed laws 

Im not talking about Trump though. You understand that Trump is not a dictator, there is a bigger government and power that will remove him based on the law. The military will be forced to march in the White House and remove Trump by force if he refuses to leave.