Taylucifer 5,249 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 gay rights TayDaily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Homophobia cancelledT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This headline is frustrating. Incrementalism is frustrating. Doesn’t the Pope saying this also alter the religious preconception that God is unchanging? If you think the Pope coming out in support of civil unions is going to be a death blow to homophobia you have another thing coming. Many homophobes are also anti-Pope and Protestant don’t have much respect for him anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 23,088 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 22 hours ago, M Monstre said: It's not the same as full on same-sex marriage, but it's still definitely a step in the right direction. it's what really matters imo because at the end of the day marriage is nothing but a catholic ceremony. recognizing the right of civil union is superior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,325 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: it's what really matters imo because at the end of the day marriage is nothing but a catholic ceremony. recognizing the right of civil union is superior I believe marriage offers some more rights than civil unions, though. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 23,088 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, M Monstre said: I believe marriage offers some more rights than civil unions, though. yeah, because the laws are heavily based on catholic church views, but I think civil union is superior because it's independent of the catholic influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,325 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Cookie Tookie said: It’s not like I gave a f*ck about what this pope said before this statement, so this doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t need the pope who represents a corrupt institution to tell me that my life is valid. I understand where you're coming from, and I 100% agree. At the end of the day, no one, not even the pope, can try and validate my existence because my existence already validates who I am. That said, this is definitely a step in the right direction for the LGBTQ community. While you may not need that kind of validation, perhaps other LGBTQ people need it. Perhaps their parents need it to make them feel more comfortable with the idea of being gay. A lot of people, especially in western cultures, don't really understand just how closed-minded other cultures can be when it comes to the LGBTQ community. I can already tell you that for people like my parents, who are staunchly Catholic, this may open their minds more to be more accepting. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,325 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: yeah, because the laws are heavily based on catholic church views, but I think civil union is superior because it's independent of the catholic influence. Well, but marriage differs from country to country and from religion to religion. Matrimony is more representative of the Catholic view of marriage, as opposed to "marriage" in general. Still, this is a big step in the right direction. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 18 hours ago, SKANK said: You are very wrong about his opinions having no gravitas on people’s lives. For all the queer kids being raised in strict Catholic homes, they just got a life line. If the Pope can validate their sexuality and future relationships like this, that will do loads to bring their family around. The head of a church that boasts over a billion members just validated same sex relationships, after spending hundreds of years condemning them. You and I may not care about his opinion, but if Pope Francis comes out in support of same-sex unions, it will impact a lot of gay people’s lives in a powerful way. I should have said "should bare no gravitas". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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