PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said: I literally was raised in a high control cult my entire 25 years of life...ive researched cults and how to identify them...this isnt my "discriminatory view"...it's a fact whether intentionally or not...he has created a religious cult. And as I said before...my boyfriends family is part of THIS cult so with ALL that...why would I NOT know what I'm talking about? I’ll tell you why. Because your highly intensive and traumatising experience has clouded your judgement. You are attempting to identify a cult based on appearances rather than dogma and doctrine. Any human being capable of critical thinking who actually listens to what he is saying will determine, of their own mind, that he speaks he genuine spiritual and scientific truth and that it is all aimed at helping people, not hindering them. You admitted yourself you won’t even take the time to listen. Forgive me, but yes, this is prejudice. You can blame your experience of being in a cult, however it is clear to me that your fear of being controlled has enabled avoidance tactics within your psychological structure. This spiritual teacher has saved, contributed to and enhanced the lives of countless people and he has never asked for anything in return. He is outspoken against religion and pathological dogma. But I will not take the time to try and explain any further. If you are determined to remain deliberately blind, that is your right. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 22 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said: I don't believe life has an inherent purpose or meaning. It is up to you to make it mean something. This is what he is saying, in essence. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: I’ll tell you why. Because your highly intensive and traumatising experience has clouded your judgement. You are attempting to identify a cult based on appearances rather than dogma and doctrine. Any human being capable of critical thinking who actually listens to what he is saying will determine, of their own mind, that he speaks he genuine spiritual and scientific truth and that it is all aimed at helping people, not hindering them. You admitted yourself you won’t even take the time to listen. Forgive me, but yes, this is prejudice. You can blame your experience of being in a cult, however it is clear to me that your fear of being controlled has enabled avoidance tactics within your psychological structure. This spiritual teacher has saved, contributed to and enhanced the lives of countless people and he has never asked for anything in return. He is outspoken against religion and pathological dogma. But I will not take the time to try and explain any further. If you are determined to remain deliberately blind, that is your right. You must not be able to read when I say now for the 3rd time...my boyfriend has family that are part of this cult and they talk about him all the time and I've heard his "sermons" and yes have seen some his videos...even the ones on homosexuality which he dodges so well Look at the BITE model of how to identify a cult and you'll understand... Plus...there is no spiritual truth. You would first need to prove supernatural knowledge of beings even exist. I dont have a fear of being controlled...I have a fear of people who like to manipulate others with their exaggerated opinions and offer them as some unique spiritual revelations that should be taken seriously enough to make changes in their lives. You must be a follower of his or something because I don't understand why else you are so defensive when this isn't personal towards you at all...you feel attacked because you believe what he says as truth so anyone who shares a difference of opinion is immediately labeled as discrimination No no...that doesn't work anymore. Religious people need to stop feeling that their opinions and beliefs are superior to those who don't believe otherwise they are labeled as bigots or ignorant. You shared something with good intentions it would help or comfort people but I'm also here to express my warning to people to not get caught up in what can be a slippery slope down the rabbit hole of ending up in a cult. Nobody in a cult...thinks they're in a cult. Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,869 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: I’ll tell you why. Because your highly intensive and traumatising experience has clouded your judgement. You are attempting to identify a cult based on appearances rather than dogma and doctrine. Any human being capable of critical thinking who actually listens to what he is saying will determine, of their own mind, that he speaks he genuine spiritual and scientific truth and that it is all aimed at helping people, not hindering them. You admitted yourself you won’t even take the time to listen. Forgive me, but yes, this is prejudice. You can blame your experience of being in a cult, however it is clear to me that your fear of being controlled has enabled avoidance tactics within your psychological structure. This spiritual teacher has saved, contributed to and enhanced the lives of countless people and he has never asked for anything in return. He is outspoken against religion and pathological dogma. But I will not take the time to try and explain any further. If you are determined to remain deliberately blind, that is your right. Can you, like, stop victim blaming under the facade of niceness? It's not like we're idiots, that's very transparent. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said: You must not be able to read when I say now for the 3rd time...my boyfriend has family that are part of this cult and they talk about him all the time and I've heard his "sermons" and yes have seen some his videos...even the ones on homosexuality which he dodges so well Look at the BITE model of how to identify a cult and you'll understand... Plus...there is no spiritual truth. You would first need to prove supernatural knowledge of beings even exist. I dont have a fear of being controlled...I have a fear of people who like to manipulate others with their exaggerated opinions and offer them as some unique spiritual revelations that should be taken seriously enough to make changes in their lives. You must be a follower of his or something because I don't understand why else you are so defensive when this isn't personal towards you at all...you feel attacked because you believe what he says as truth so anyone who shares a difference of opinion is immediately labeled as discrimination No no...that doesn't work anymore. Religious people need to stop feeling that their opinions and beliefs are superior to those who don't believe otherwise they are labeled as bigots or ignorant. You shared something with good intentions it would help or comfort people but I'm also here to express my warning to people to not get caught up in what can be a slippery slope down the rabbit hole of ending up in a cult. Nobody in a cult...thinks they're in a cult. I work with victims of cults and help to rehabilitate them. I can assure you I follow nobody and I can assure you this man does not run a cult. You are unfortunately misguided on what spirituality is. I have said nothing of any belief in any supernatural beings. I wish you well. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Pennywise said: Can you, like, stop victim blaming under the facade of niceness? It's not like we're idiots, that's very transparent. I’m not victim blaming. I’m stating facts. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoajl 423 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 22 hours ago, TimisaMonster said: I don't watch videos by cult leaders...and I don't plan to subscribe to any cults ever again soooo Again? My new single #Tregua available on your favorite streaming service Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,869 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: I’m not victim blaming. I’m stating facts. Okay, Mr. "I believe masks cause oxygen deficiency". Sure, yeah, you're stating facts So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Pennywise said: Okay, Mr. "I believe masks cause oxygen deficiency". Sure, yeah, you're stating facts And when did I say that? Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: I work with victims of cults and help to rehabilitate them. I can assure you I follow nobody and I can assure you this man does not run a cult. You are unfortunately misguided on what spirituality is. I have said nothing of any belief in any supernatural beings. I wish you well. I actually do as well, but I would NEVER show cult survivors a video like the one you posted... Sir...i can't be misguided on something like "spirituality" when there is 0 proof it exists. People make up their own definitions of what word that means to them... Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, jackoajl said: Again? Yes unfortunately I was raised in the jehovah witness cult for 25 years Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,869 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: And when did I say that? You quoted someone saying it and defended it, and I don't see how that is different than saying it yourself. Please don't try to be a demagogue, it doesn't work on me. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Pennywise said: You quoted someone saying it and defended it, and I don't see how that is different than saying it yourself. Please don't try to be a demagogue, it doesn't work on me. Demagogue? 😂 Whatever you say, pal. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,869 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said: Demagogue? 😂 Whatever you say, pal. Ooooh now we move on to gaslighting because I'm right? Okay, sis, have fun So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pennywise said: Ooooh now we move on to gaslighting because I'm right? Okay, sis, have fun Gaslighting? I’ll pray for you. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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