Several movie releases pushed back!

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3 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

In which way will they do profit when movie theaters don’t exist anymore? You can’t make the same numbers with streaming (by far). And people buying digitaly/DVD isn’t a thing anymore. Also they can’t sit on that money 4 ever. This is the last pushback, in my opinion, that movie companies and theaters can allow themselves 

I’ll follow the movie industry experts. Theaters will reopen eventually. The govt will bail them out if that happens too late. Again, it’s capitalism. Movie theaters aren’t going anywhere..

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6 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said:

I’ll follow the movie industry experts. Theaters will reopen eventually. The govt will bail them out if that happens too late. Again, it’s capitalism. Movie theaters aren’t going anywhere..

If it is like you say, I am more then happy.
 

But atm things don’t look like this at all. In my hometown we have 3 cinemas in nearby cities. Two closed already (and they won’t re open) and the other one already made the statement that if there is a big push back again they have to close too.

Sure cinemas in big cities and big cinema franchises MIGHT survive this by holding onto the last straw and by the gov bailing them out eventuality (don’t know how this will be in other countries then the us btw, cause I am speaking on a global scale) but this push back will definitely be a death sentence for a lot of local/small cinemas

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1 hour ago, SwissMonster said:

So, as some of you noticed, Movie Studios pushed back again A LOT of big movie releases (Dune, No Time To Die, WW, Venom 2, Black Widow).

I can’t help but wonder WHY the hell they are doing this??

Tenet made an incredible 250M$ in box office in a month! Sure with Theaters open in the US it would’ve earned another 100M$ but on a regular movie scale it isn’t a flop at all, especially given the times we live in! It only is a box office “flop” because of the movies high production costs.

But that’s the thing, Tenet has not been a success, far from it actually, and the low box office numbers are the reason why studios keep pushing back release dates. It would need around $500M to break even (that means just to recoup the costs, not even to make a profit) and it’s going to end it’s theatrical run barley scraping $300M worldwide

If anything it has shown that audiences are not ready to come back to the theaters, but arguments could be made that it wasn’t the right movie/rightfully marketed to test whether even audiences wanted to come back at all. 

Then Disney also messed up the release of tent poles on streaming with the cluster**** that was the Mulan roll out which, had it gone well, would have pushed other studios to do the same.

So unless another studio decides to sacrifice a multi-million dollar movie for streaming to see how it does, delaying entire slates is going to keep happening imo

But people have been saying that Pixar’s Soul is going to go on Disney Plus, and there is also NO WAY that Wonder Woman is going to keep it’s December release date so imo it’s going to move to HBO Max in the US/release theatrically in Europe like The Witches 

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1 minute ago, Spock said:

But that’s the thing, Tenet has not been a success, far from it actually, and the low box office numbers are the reason why studios keep pushing back release dates. It would need around $500M to break even (that means just to recoup the costs, not even to make a profit) and it’s going to end it’s theatrical run barley scraping $300M worldwide

If anything it has shown that audiences are not ready to come back to the theaters, but arguments could be made that it wasn’t the right movie/rightfully marketed to test whether even audiences wanted to come back at all. 

Then Disney also messed up the release of tent poles on streaming with the cluster**** that was the Mulan roll out which, had it gone well, would have pushed other studios to do the same.

So unless another studio decides to sacrifice a multi-million dollar movie for streaming to see how it does, delaying entire slates is going to keep happening imo

But people have been saying that Pixar’s Soul is going to go on Disney Plus, and there is also NO WAY that Wonder Woman is going to keep it’s December release date so imo it’s going to move to HBO Max in the US/release theatrically in Europe like The Witches 

That last part is my other question. Why not releasing movies digitally/streaming in US and in theaters in other parts of the world. At least like that cinemas wouldn’t die off worldwide.

But I got the point with big movies already by other users. My focus is no more on releasing lower budget movies with big potential 

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45 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

A cinema visit within corona restrictions is as safe as going to a restaurant, meet friends and families or going to work.

Not for every country. This isn't just a problem for a few places, it's a world wide pandemic. 

I'm in Australia, so I can already go to the theatre, and the majority of people here are smart and practice regulations.

That however isn't the case for the whole world. Not just the people going to the theatre, the people making the movies as well. A lot of the movies you're talking about aren't 100% done yet, they still need to be worked on, which is also dangerous for the crew members. 

At the end of the day, it's a movie. We can survive a few more months waiting if it ensure's EVERYONE is kept safe. 

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Wonder Woman 1984 was supposed to be released in 2019.

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2 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

I agree, maybe some movies wouldn’t do that well. But major productions like No Time To Die, Dune or BW will very likely do those numbers. For Venom or WW yeah maybe they have to wait but some movies, I just don’t get it. 

They would need to put an extreme amount of money into the marketing tho... I mean I don't work in the movie industry so I dk.

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8 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

But not every movie produced has a 200M$ budget. Okay, lets say the beg movies aside. They could release smaller movies with big Box Office opportunities and small production costs

A Quiet Place 2: 17M$
Escape Room 2: 10M$
Venom 2: 100M$
The Kings Man: 85M$
 

Here is a list of all movies pushed back. A lot low budget once with a good Box Office possible even with corona:

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.vulture.com/amp/2020/10/here-are-all-the-movies-and-tv-shows-affected-by-coronavirus.html
 

don’t think the same number of people (before covid-19) would risk their lives watching a ‘smaller’ movie now though

like personally, of the movies you’ve listed, I would rather wait for them to be on streaming than to go see it cinemas, EVEN if there were no covid-19

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9 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

But you are right. It kinda is funny to me, cause the reason they wait is to release them in cinemas, eventho they would have these solutions. Which means (at least to me) that movie studios hold onto movie theaters. Which is so dumb cause not only they harm themselves by waiting but also the theaters they try to protect

Regal Cinemas already decided to close their theaters until further notice whatever that ends up meaning and looking like. I don’t foresee movie theaters bouncing back anytime soon. Most of them will be a thing of the past at this rate.

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9 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

They should release their movies on streaming services/DVDs/other formats instead of waiting for people to go into a cinema.

They would not recoup close to their costs. Disney did it with Mulan and it did not go well. And this was probably after they did some sort of marketing research to see how well the movie would do in theaters. We also cannot forget that Mulan has already been pushed on dates several times and that this was an enticement for people to try Disney+. 

9 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

I see it much more as a sign that people are willing to go back to the cinemas. A lot of cinemas lowered prices and if people wanna see two movies they will go watch both. I find it so strange that the US matters so much to the Studios eventho they could just release those movies at a later point there

Pirating would be an issue with delaying a US release for a long period of time. 

8 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

But not every movie produced has a 200M$ budget. Okay, lets say the beg movies aside. They could release smaller movies with big Box Office opportunities and small production costs

A Quiet Place 2: 17M$
Escape Room 2: 10M$
Venom 2: 100M$
The Kings Man: 85M$
 

Here is a list of all movies pushed back. A lot low budget once with a good Box Office possible even with corona:

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.vulture.com/amp/2020/10/here-are-all-the-movies-and-tv-shows-affected-by-coronavirus.html
 

While I understand your logic, you fail to keep in mind that these movies would still have large marketing budgets and would require even more marketing in order to get people into theaters at the moment. And while A Quiet Place 2 has a small production budget, the studio still expects a large return based on the near 20x return from its previous iteration. Studios want to capitalize on movies being an event, and they can't do that when theaters aren't operating the same and people are scared to go see a movie. 

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They should just accept to have a couple of inevitable failures and move on... At this rate, movies are gonna feel old before being even out. The fact these massive studios cannot wrap their heads around having one film underperforming is concerning.

And the OP just taught me about Dune, I'm pretty disgusted to see it pushed back almost one full year. Pretty soon, I feel like there won't be any movie theaters afloat to show anything at all.

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I hope that the conjuring 3 is pushed back its my favorite movie franchise at the moment 

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I don’t see corona going away or becoming at least manageable until 2022 so I’m perched to see what these studios are gonna do next year 

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I look forward to the day when everything is back to normal and we can freely visit cinemas. I used to only watch like 1 movie a year, but I’d like to change that now.

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1 hour ago, justhislife said:

They would not recoup close to their costs. Disney did it with Mulan and it did not go well. And this was probably after they did some sort of marketing research to see how well the movie would do in theaters. We also cannot forget that Mulan has already been pushed on dates several times and that this was an enticement for people to try Disney+. 

The problem with Mulan is that it was doomed since the announcement. Hiding it behind a paywall, the premium price and all the controversies/boycotts were a real mess, Disney ****ed it up. It had nothing to do with the movie being delayed imo

It definitely was not the right strategy nor the right movie, so it is impossible to say at the moment how a highly anticipated tentpole would work on streaming. Trolls 2 did amazing numbers for example and it isn't even Black Widow levels of anticipated.

Insiders are saying that Soul is going to go on Disney+, and that Warner will decide what to do with WW84 after the numbers for The Witches come in so I guess we'll see