JustHMLover2 706 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ps dont forget to stream Chromatica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Karl said: I get what you mean to be honest. I know that in western countries, Islam is very toned down and tolerant. My problem isn't with what religion is about, good morals, be kind to one another etc. Its more about the organised religion we have today, for example American evangelical Christians being horribly racist and stuff in the name of Jesus. Thank you. I would never support exclusionary/discriminating aspects of a religion but I'm glad we can talk to each other as adults. Hate and acting childish - which most of these posters are exhibiting - achieves nothing but more hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Regina George said: And I’m not saying you should love it. Hate it for all I care. You just come of as uneducated on the issue tho. Also quite frankly your wording is not any better than the wording of those who hate gays. It’s coming straight from uneducated beliefs. My lack of education was not knowing the nuance between “gay is bad” and “gay should die”. At the end of the day it’s just as shitty, no matter how you interpret it. Do I need to analyze the Quran from A to Z to see it’s filled with atrocities? No. It is, just like the Bible. I haven’t read either, but I did read some of the problematic passages and that’s all I need to make myself an opinion. Read about the paradox of intolerance. Basically, we can’t tolerate intolerance. Abrahamic religions are intolerant. Hence I don’t tolerate them. Still tolerate their believers, but not the beliefs themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raragaga 8,119 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 so anyways... what gaga era sharted? xoxo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Enigma said: My lack of education was not knowing the nuance between “gay is bad” and “gay should die”. At the end of the day it’s just as shitty, no matter how you interpret it. Do I need to analyze the Quran from A to Z to see it’s filled with atrocities? No. It is, just like the Bible. I haven’t read either, but I did read some of the problematic passages and that’s all I need to make myself an opinion. Read about the paradox of intolerance. Basically, we can’t tolerate intolerance. Abrahamic religions are intolerant. Hence I don’t tolerate them. Still tolerate their believers, but not the beliefs themselves. What problematic passaged tho? The only thing that is mentioned in Qur’an about gay people is “men shouldn’t lay with men.” There is no “gays should be killed” or whatever you are preaching. Like I said being gay is sin, drinking alcohol is sin, eating pork is sin but it is sin that can only be punished and judged by God, not other people. There is not one mention of killing people like gays. It’s like saying smoking is bad but if you want to do it, then do it. Who am I to judge or punish you for that? I can see you didn’t read any because you clearly don’t even know what it’s all about. You are poisoned by propagandist media that teaches you that Islam is all about killing when killing is literally THE BIGGEST sin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Regina George said: What problematic passaged tho? The only thing that is mentioned in Qur’an about gay people is “men shouldn’t lay with men.” There is no “gays should be killed” or whatever you are preaching. Like I said being gay is sin, drinking alcohol is sin, eating pork is sin but it is sin that can only be punished and judged by God, not other people. There is not one mention of killing people like gays. It’s like saying smoking is bad but if you want to do it, then do it. Who am I to judge or punish you for that? I can see you didn’t read any because you clearly don’t even know what it’s all about. You are poisoned by propagandist media that teaches you that Islam is all about killing when killing is literally THE BIGGEST sin. So Islam says gay is bad, as you just confirmed. That’s ALL I need to know. Islam sucks, case closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vico 66 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Jung Hoseok said: Don't you all understand it is not about just Islam?Just because other people mock Christianism doesn't mean it is ok to do it or it is ok to mock other religions as well.If it is misogynistic then it is misogynistic dont even dare sugar coat the situation or underestimate it. I cant believe people here are this Islamaphobic and ignorant.If Rihanna had done something homophobic 90% of people here would already burried her alive but i guess some of you think being atheist or being from another religion gives you right to mock it. And don't ever dare pulling "aLL rEliGiOns aRe wAcK" bs ever again most of y'all here pushing 30s but acting like edgy teenagers . You are not cool you sound ignorant Not Islamophobic.. Ppl are generally religion-phobic. It just happened that this time it was Islamic. This happens all the time with other religions. Don't make it as if ppl ONLY hate Islam. Exaggeration much. I ddnt read your thesis by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 3,090 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Chile anyway- instead of listening to that Karl trying to educate people on not to be offended. Muslim people are offended by the song and Rihanna most likely didn't know...but that's not the point. Muslim people were offended. Periodt. If you're not Muslim you don't got a say in this. Yeah, there's no law in offending people but again that's not the point. People were offended. She can ignore it or she can recognize its an issue. Same thing like how y'all whites get offended about some Swastika symbol even though it is traditionally a part of Hinduism... Also, there's a difference between a Christian girl using her standardized religion to be shocking vs a non Muslim girl using Islam as a soundscape aesthetic lmao... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl 3,396 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Regina George said: What problematic passaged tho? The only thing that is mentioned in Qur’an about gay people is “men shouldn’t lay with men.” There is no “gays should be killed” or whatever you are preaching. Like I said being gay is sin, drinking alcohol is sin, eating pork is sin but it is sin that can only be punished and judged by God, not other people. There is not one mention of killing people like gays. It’s like saying smoking is bad but if you want to do it, then do it. Who am I to judge or punish you for that? I can see you didn’t read any because you clearly don’t even know what it’s all about. You are poisoned by propagandist media that teaches you that Islam is all about killing when killing is literally THE BIGGEST sin. I totally get your point, and you are right to defend the book for not explicitly mentioning violence. The problem is, just like the witch burnings that happened in Christianity, sometimes the followers of the religion take the meaning of 'sin' too far. This is a very very small minority, but it has still cost thousands of lives, can you see that is why some people have a problem with religion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ok sorry i am incredibly late but i am confused, what’s a hadith? is it a prayer they’re dancing to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 hours ago, JustHMLover2 said: It is not her lane to support women rights, no matter the religion? Hmmm She can support women's rights AND remain culturally sensitive. She is a woman but she is not a Muslim woman, so there is a disconnect there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiddleGround 3,259 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, Enigma said: Culture and religion are two different things. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Luna Lovegood said: They’ve arrived They've arrived Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayo 7,664 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don’t entirely understand what the big deal is. Religious music/imagery/content has been used in pop culture/music for decades now. Why Gaga/Madonna/Lana allowed to use Christian imagery but Rihanna is not allowed to use Islamic imagery in her shows? All religion is corrupt and artists should be at free will to make commentary and “blasphemous” statements. Make it stupid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Enigma said: So Islam says gay is bad, as you just confirmed. That’s ALL I need to know. Islam sucks, case closed. You’re legit so ignorant I’m surprised Take care love Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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