bionic 50,111 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Florin said: Can US really accept something like this if it happens? I dont see it, but better go and vote and make sure that this wont happen. How would it be ipposed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,239 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, MOT said: I wish I could disagree with even a part of what you say, but I'm afraid I can't. Trump kept insisting in the 2016 campaign that the election was rigged. I was hoping someone would ask him post-election if he had a date in mind yet for the re-run, seeing as the original was rigged, but I don't think the question ever came. Yes indeed. He doesn't question the results if he wins, only if he loses. And it's obvious that his base lacks any critical thinking, because that right there is a huge red flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Wheres the gun crazies now? 2nd amendment says THIS is the reason you have guns. Off you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,628 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Florin said: Can US really accept something like this if it happens? I dont see it, but better go and vote and make sure that this wont happen. 12 minutes ago, bionic said: How would it be ipposed? If Trump tried to bypass the election result, is it possible that the military would step in ? I live in Europe, so I'm a long way from having my finger on the pulse, and maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but I think I'm right in saying that when he tried to involve the military in putting down the BLM protests the generals pretty much told him where to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, djBuffoon said: ^ And to my earlier comment, I would also add, do your research too. Look into their proposals, and see which candidate has the country's best interest. I think the answer is clear, but your perspective might be different. But I don't think this is the year to vote third-party, or stay home. The sanctity of American democracy is at stake, literally. Joe Biden's proposals suck. Don't pressure voters to vote for him and his milquetoast policies. Pressure Joe Biden to adopt progressive policies like M4A and a GND. That is so much more effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: 100000%. And I encourage people to do their research because, although Biden is also not my ideal candidate, his proposals for healthcare expansion, tax reform, racial equity, the environment, and LGBTQ+ support - should they come to pass - are as progressive as anything we would have seen from a sitting president. Are they Bernie-level improvements? No. But at this point, I would accept a happy medium and fight for more. But Biden needs to win first. People will continue to die without health care under Joe Biden's plan. That's not a happy medium. People, disproportionately BIPOC, will continue to be shot by Biden's police force that he wants to expand. That's not a happy medium. We will not prevent the worse effects of climate change with Joe Biden's climate plan. That's not a happy medium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,239 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: Joe Biden's proposals suck. Don't pressure voters to vote for him and his milquetoast policies. Pressure Joe Biden to adopt progressive policies like M4A and a GND. That is so much more effective. He kinda has to win first if we're gonna get anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, djBuffoon said: He kinda has to win first if we're gonna get anywhere. No he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, TheQueenLG said: No he doesn't. Yes, he does. Also, pressuring people into voting for him is more effective than pressuring him to change his policies. He won’t listen, but people will. Do you think we will come out of another 4 years of Trump being closer to our goals or further from them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, MOT said: If Trump tried to bypass the election result, is it possible that the military would step in ? I live in Europe, so I'm a long way from having my finger on the pulse, and maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but I think I'm right in saying that when he tried to involve the military in putting down the BLM protests the generals pretty much told him where to go. It would be difficult. The president is the Commander in Chief of the military. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, joannesrats said: Yes, he does. Also, pressuring people into voting for him is more effective than pressuring him to change his policies. He won’t listen, but people will. Do you think we will come out of another 4 years of Trump being closer to our goals or further from them? You can adopt the same losing strategy from 2016 of shaming voters rather than demanding more from candidates, but that's on you. Couldn't be me. If a candidate literally will not listen to their potential voters, why the h*ll should anyone ever vote for them. That just doesn't make any sense at all. Idk. I'm not voting for Trump, soooo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 well if that happens a true civil war will happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,963 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 These are all votes for Trump: Any third-party vote Writing in Bernie Not voting at all ---- The two-party system is flawed, but we have to wait to fix that in the 2024 election. As a Bernie supporter, we still MUST vote Biden. We have to, it is all or nothing now. If you are able to register do it! Then, please vote! he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,147 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, bionic said: A jarring new report from The Atlantic claims that the Trump campaign is discussing potential strategies to circumvent the results of the 2020 election, should Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump, by first alleging the existence of rampant fraud and then appointing electors in battleground states where Republicans maintain a legislative majority, whom Trump would ask to bypass the state’s popular vote and instead to choose electors loyal to the GOP and the sitting president. Read source for how this would be achieved. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/23/report-trump-campaign-actively-discussing-radical-measures-to-bypass-election-results/#6af7ced14800 Well then , prepare for an all out revolt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: You can adopt the same losing strategy from 2016 of shaming voters rather than demanding more from candidates, but that's on you. Couldn't be me. If a candidate literally will not listen to their potential voters, why the h*ll should anyone ever vote for them. That just doesn't make any sense at all. Idk. I'm not voting for Trump, soooo. I said pressuring, not shaming. There’s a difference. And honestly, people should be shamed if they don’t vote. ESPECIALLY in presidential elections. It’s their job as a citizen. You don’t seem to be understanding why people are pushing for Biden over Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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