TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, 27monster27 said: These are all votes for Trump: Any third-party vote Writing in Bernie Not voting at all ---- The two-party system is flawed, but we have to wait to fix that in the 2024 election. As a Bernie supporter, we still MUST vote Biden. We have to, it is all or nothing now. If you are able to register do it! Then, please vote! I'm not voting for Biden and I'm not voting for Trump, either. I won't be emotionally manipulated and gaslit. Thanks for trying though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, MOT said: If Trump tried to bypass the election result, is it possible that the military would step in ? I live in Europe, so I'm a long way from having my finger on the pulse, and maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but I think I'm right in saying that when he tried to involve the military in putting down the BLM protests the generals pretty much told him where to go. He's the commander in chief, how can they act without 100% certainty that Trump isn't right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: No he doesn't. go vote for the worse candidate then, aka Trump, if you feel that strongly against Biden. Vote for a third-party, but the you risk having the worst candidate for another 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, joannesrats said: I said pressuring, not shaming. There’s a difference. And honestly, people should be shamed if they don’t vote. ESPECIALLY in presidential elections. It’s their job as a citizen. You don’t seem to be understanding why people are pushing for Biden over Trump. Perhaps you misunderstand why people don't vote in this country. It's because the candidates suck and never make any structural changes to our structurally inequitable system. Stop punching down on the powerless and start demanding more from the powerful. This is getting embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Rio said: go vote for the worse candidate then, aka Trump, if you feel that strongly against Biden. But I feel just as strongly about how terrible Donald Trump is. Why should I vote for either candidate if they're both terrible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,629 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, MOT said: If Trump tried to bypass the election result, is it possible that the military would step in ? I live in Europe, so I'm a long way from having my finger on the pulse, and maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but I think I'm right in saying that when he tried to involve the military in putting down the BLM protests the generals pretty much told him where to go. 11 minutes ago, joannesrats said: It would be difficult. The president is the Commander in Chief of the military. Yes, it would be difficult, but two things. 1. They've already said no to him once. 2. Would his claim to the presidency be legitimate ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I can't wait till these monsters get what's coming to them, whatever and whenever that may be. But it's coming. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: Perhaps you misunderstand why people don't vote in this country. It's because the candidates suck and never make any structural changes to our structurally inequitable system. Stop punching down on the powerless and start demanding more from the powerful. This is getting embarrassing. Jesus christ you’re on a moral high horse. Im not punching down on the powerless? The candidates do suck. I won’t deny that. But one is a lot closer to the goals as the other and actually has a chance at winning. A 3rd-party candidate does not have a chance at winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: But I feel just as strongly about how terrible Donald Trump is. Why should I vote for either candidate if they're both terrible? Because one is better than the other. This election is not about morals or short-term goals. Voting for Biden will hopefully get one or more liberal/left justices. It will also mean that Trump can’t further divide a nation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: I'm not voting for Biden and I'm not voting for Trump, either. I won't be emotionally manipulated and gaslit. Thanks for trying though! Nobody is manipulating or gaslighting you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, joannesrats said: Because one is better than the other. This election is not about morals or short-term goals. Voting for Biden will hopefully get one or more liberal/left justices. It will also mean that Trump can’t further divide a nation. Trump will already have installed another one of justices before the election. And Biden is a conservative. He would not have installed a leftist justice. Also, you realize liberalism is a right-wing ideology, right? "Dividing the nation" is such a nebulous term that it means close to nothing. Biden will continue to expand our racist, murderous police state, will not provide universal health care, and will not pass a GND. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, joannesrats said: Nobody is manipulating or gaslighting you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, joannesrats said: Jesus christ you’re on a moral high horse. Im not punching down on the powerless? The candidates do suck. I won’t deny that. But one is a lot closer to the goals as the other and actually has a chance at winning. A 3rd-party candidate does not have a chance at winning. You promoted vote-shaming literally one second ago. That is most definitely, by definition, punching down on the powerless and disenfranchised. I'm sorry if this fact bothers you. I never said a 3rd party candidate has a chance of winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: But I feel just as strongly about how terrible Donald Trump is. Why should I vote for either candidate if they're both terrible? One is old and crusty and probably won't cape too hard for a progressive agenda but is also unlikely to cause much harm. The other wants to impose a facist state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Saying something is "nebulous" then ending right there without expanding on it is quite deflective. A vote for anyone that isn't Biden is a vote taken away from democrats and handed to trump. That is the truth. Im sorry you cannot see that fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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