Were the fans responsible for Gaga's traumatic, depressing last 2.5 years?

[Bat 6,162]

17 minutes ago, blankpaper said:

You also said “all the money she’s raking in is making her life easy” which isn’t the case at all. She can afford to get help, but it’s not a quick fix and her life is NOT easy

I think a young single mom of 3 living in The Bronx struggling to get through the month might see this different for example.

[Schwerk 7,078]

Fans shouldn't be generalized all the time.

I for one know how much she loves seeing familiar faces front row and there were a lot of sweet moments I experienced during the Joanne tour with friends that back this up. Same goes for Enigma. She wants to look you in the eye and see that you're enjoying yourself. She wants to talk to people that don't shove a phone in her face to have some sort of prove a moment happened without just being in that moment.

Also she gained even more attention and casual fans after ASIB. Those fans don't know her backstory and maybe see her more as a celebrity.

We also shouldn't forget during the BTW ball Gaga was emotionally leaning on her fans a lot, she confided in us just enough to let us know she wasn't doing well, but also knowing we could not truly help her. We were a comfort blanket, an unconditional love she needed, but that also weighed her down because a lot of fans shared their heartwrenching stories and sometimes even cries for help and suicide attempts.  BTW ball fandom got pretty dark. People fighting for her attention by exposing (and sometimes even faking) the darkers chapters of their lives.

Luckily Emma rolled in and was able to have a true honest connection and give Gaga and her team a wake up call and wisdom from personal experience which let to Gaga getting the help she needed.

Gaga is allowed to be more selfish at times I feel and do what she wants to do. She cares so much it hurts. And it's hard to tell sometimes who genuinely care about her or who see her more for the phenomenon she is.

I kind of wonder the role Christian Carino played in this. He obviously cared a lot about her but also made big bank off of her residency and seeming like a fan sometimes with her face tattooed on him and her plastered all over his insta. It was a strange time.

I just want her to do what she's comfortable with and hope she doesn't forget we truly love her as a human being and ignore those who shout the loudest. 

 

 

[LilyLark 9,968]

2 hours ago, Ricardo said:

lol no we're not responsible for her mental health, also people in here tend to mistake criticism for bullying, so no, we not liking Haus Labs or a wig on a show made Gaga depressed  

Yeah, Gaga's been open about her mental health problems. It's not the fans; it's a serious illness. That said, lbr the fans bully 80% of the time about Haus Labs, etc. & I'm sure it's probably a contributing factor to her stress level.

It's one thing ot b*tch on here...but some people would directly tweet & tag vile abuse at her, Sarah, Bobby, etc. Granted, it's a small percentage but they would be VERY loud....which is why I often say this is one of the worst—but not the worst—fan bases. Also thinking of that mess with the stage kiss and Brian Newman where fans turned it into a tabloid story by constantly tweeting/retweeting it & how Bobby seemed to imply that it was BS started by social media. Other fans (including myself) called them out and it took like 5 minutes to google & read that Brian's show is a cabaret act described as "explicit"  with topless women, staged skits, etc....but fans ran with "Gaga randomly kissed the man on stage and oh he's married" (never mind his wife ground her naked t*ts all over Gaga's face like a month later so clearly she didn't have an issue).

[LilyLark 9,968]

17 minutes ago, Bat said:

I think a young single mom of 3 living in The Bronx struggling to get through the month might see this different for example.

Gaga has it much easier than a single mother working a minimum wage job, but life is difficult when you have mental health problems. Granted, Gaga can afford the best doctors...but it doesn't mean it's easy.

[LilyLark 9,968]

Nah. I've routinely called out fans on here...especially the ones who tweet vile abuse directly at her and her team & the ones who blow up sh*t out of context/that could possibly be damaging on social media to the point PopCrave or whatever picks it up and then it becomes a story (the Brian Newman thing, etc.).

But mental illness is a illness....it's not fans or fame or anything. I'm sure it contributes to her stress levels and makes dealing with her illness more difficult...being in the public eye...but I doubt it's the cause.

[Evan Peters 10,666]

I mean some of you rats didn’t help, that’s for sure 

 

[Stupid Oreo 14,211]

Yes and no

[Madame Goo Goo 3,733]

3 hours ago, Biggest Bitch said:

Unpopular opinion: I’m pretty sure we are not responsible for her traumatic years

Unfortunately she had enough problems in these years. She has lupus, her relationships were chaotic etc. 

 

She does not have lupus.

[Fanta 5,019]

I think when the fanbase annoys her perhaps, when we nitpick or go after her team, however I don’t think that plays directly into her deep rooted trauma.

I believe that stems from her assault, invasion of privacy and struggle of identity. Those are pretty major things compared to fans getting upset over wigs and delays. Sure, we have been harsh but I don’t even think she uses social media anymore and when she does she only responds to positive comments. I don’t even think her team tells her when we’re having meltdowns lol. 

[Ashley 8,946]

1 hour ago, Bat said:

Life is a series of events, some good, some bad, some take up a long time, some a short. That's just how it goes.

 

I hope she also realizes that all that money she's raking is making her life easy and that there are so many people out there that are struggling in this situation but don't have the money to make it easier. This is no shade to her but I always get a bit cringy with celebs whining about how though their life is/was. Your a multi-millionair with both your parents alive and not divorced, living an insane lifestyle and not having to worry about money EVER in your life. Let that sink in please (yes money doesn't buy you happiness, but not having money can make you unhappy).

She literally has a foundation to raise awareness for mental health. She’s said countless times that she wants to help make mental healthcare more obtainable. So obviously she knows other people are suffering as well. Stop acting like she’s totally clueless and blind, it’s insulting towards everything she’s done.

[Franch Toast 26,068]

I don't think fans are responsible, but I think some fans' behavior could intensify her trauma in certain ways. 

As others already have stated, she has mental health issues dating back to when she was an adolescent, even pre-dating her sexual assault. Of course fans are not responsible for these issues. 

However, people treating her like a commodity and shoving phones in her face and invading her privacy and bullying her close friends doesn't do anything to help matters, and at times likely exacerbates her mental health issues. Same for calling her a bitch, wh*re, puta, lazy, etc. because she isn't putting out music fast enough or people disagree with her choice of single. I think it goes beyond fans though and extends to the other downsides of fame: the paparazzi, tabloids (especially being labeled a "home wrecker"), the media in general, etc. Remember how  people thought she and Bradley were an item, and everyone went after her and not Bradley? That had to have hurt. Why did she have to defend their relationship on Kimmel right after winning an Oscar? Why didn't anyone ask Bradley to set the record straight instead? 

 

[blankpaper 21]

48 minutes ago, Bat said:

I think a young single mom of 3 living in The Bronx struggling to get through the month might see this different for example.

And? Someone has an easy life just because there are people who have a different struggle? Maybe that mom has it easy because someone working in a sweatshop in a third world country has it worse 

[Jakkusan 791]

I’m going to say yes, partially. We need to be more responsible and respectful. 

[Cavadour 2,126]

She wanted to be famous. She fought for it. She believed in herself beyond the traumas of her teenage. But being strong and fighting all the time is exhausting. No human being even someone of her calibre is able to resist indefinitely without damage. And then, as fast as she gets a bit better, she goes back to fight...

I think she has to really learn to apply kindness to herself now. In the meantime, we and the rest of the world have to be patient, considerate and grateful for everything she's done for us and stop acting like spoildt children.

[FrederickSpears 2,070]

I don't think fans are responsible, but the fans that attack her about everything don't help and you're clearly not really fans so why are you even here? I've seen some members who do nothing but attack her or find it funny, and that's not cool.

Also I would never go up to someone and force them into a photo/selfie. It's very rude, and as much as I love Gaga I probably wouldn't even say anything to her if she was shopping.