hoeslay 4,152 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 What do we think about the cultural references (primarily Armenian and Indian) being used to tell her story? I don't think I see it as appropriation but I'm neither Armenian nor Indian so I can't really speak on it. I know Eastern philosophies are more widespread and some people from different countries have different views on what is appropriation and what's not. It doesn't seem that she's using anything in a harmful way but I know it can be a problem when a white individual uses someone else's culture for gain or for THEIR narrative. But also Gaga is smart as f*ck and the director is Indian and it was his concept. It's genius but also scary. I know this can be a touchy subject on here and I'm not claiming it is or isn't. I'm just intrigued. Love that we have this stunning mainly BIPOC cast but I can also see the perspective of them being used as accessories. I'd love to hear a statement from the director and gain some more insight on the choice to use this kind of imagery. I did see someone Armenian-Indian on Twitter saying they felt deeply offended. I'm sure this is far from her intention but impact outweighs intention and as a POC I do have to wonder if a white artist in the US's idea for "connecting to humanity" is not necessarily the most informed -but again, she's smart as hell and I bet her and the director probably had conversations about all of this and I'd love some insight on this conversation. Let's not get messy or rude or tell people what they think is offensive or not. People are allowed to be offended or "sensitive." I would like to hear primarily from my peers in the BIPOC community and just have genuine conversation, sharing thoughts. <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYMCNL 143 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastertoyo 22,728 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 pop a 911 please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 92,297 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It's really not. Its references and inspirations are very clear and it doesn't read as appropriation at all. It's a very well made tribute and takes a lot of its inspiration of The Color of Pomegranates (an Armenian movie). Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where is LG7 3,720 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 NO because it was just all in her head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 yall hear summ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,476 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Lol not this embarassing scheisse again. Language appropriation, someone call the SJW police. Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15jocart 2,305 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I was worried at first sight, honestly. But I think it leans toward appreciation/cultural referencing rather than appropriation. Been a long time but I'm back in town, and this time I'm not leaving without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0436 10,215 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 We really should cancel the term cultural appropriation, in this age of offense and cancellations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalguru 1,167 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Please leave artists alone. Art is not isolated no man's island. Cultural appropriation is a natural response to human mind's creativity. With your thinking, Rome copied from Athens copied from Egypt so on and so forth. And she is already making it very clear for negative nellies like you that her mind picks images up in the moment of pain and one of these images is the poster of an Armenian movie. A direct citation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyniildisk 12,689 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 after i finished the video I KNEW someone was going to make this thread, but there where so many references that i dont know exactly wich culture or all of them? such a difficult subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop ate my heart 2,740 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The video makes clear references and is deeply inspired by surrealist pieces of art of other cultures. it's basically what she and many many other prolific visual artists (Bowie, Madonna, Björk, and a big etc.) have been doing since forever. cultural appropiation is a verrrry different think. am i-e-i-e-i-e-i-e-i-e-i-p-plastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I don't think it is cultural appropriation, but it is worth asking ourselves this question and showing sensibility. Y'all are clowns. "Oh no! Someone has a nuanced take and worries about important issues! Burn her!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyaway 15,350 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafBug 7,951 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The bigger issue at hand: Chromatica I, II and III all got a MV before Alice, Free Woman and Babylon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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