Sweden records lowest daily covid cases since march

[Killa 18,828]

Still trying to prove your right. Dear god must be exhausting

 

[lego 44,165]

Just now, Killa said:

Still trying to prove your right. Dear god must be exhausting

 

 

ikr nn

[Juniper 1,062]

I wouldn’t focus too hard on the reported deaths from Sweden. If a person tests positive for COVID-19 within 30 days prior to their death, they will fall into the COVID statistics even if the virus wasn’t the reason they died.

We (Sweden) have less people dying in general here now so it’s not like all those people who died are causing an excessive amount of deaths because of the virus. In some regions only 15 % of the COVID deaths could be directly linked to the virus. The remaining 85 % would’ve most likely died anyway due to other circumstances such as multiple diseases or old age. The failure was exposing all those elderly people to the virus, and the government admit that, but so many of the elders didn’t take COVID seriously at all in the beginning.

I’m pleased we kept the same approach the whole time and didn’t change from week to week like some other countries do. Like, we chose to do it this way and didn’t panic because of what every other country did or didn’t.

Since you can do tests here now and check if you have antibodies, some people I know have done that and some of them do have antibodies but never felt sick or just had it like a cold.

[Galactic Mess 1,393]

These things are so complex 

I suppose sweden was right to adopt restrictions, but no lockdown, because it's too optimistic to believe there will be a vaccine by the end of this year or start of the next. The fastest vaccine ever developed took about 4 years. Even with a lot of investment and political support, it's very hard to imagine we could produce one in a year. They made a conservative bet, and it seems to paying off.

[Luc 4,776]

For now, countries that (1) acted quickly with (2) a mild lockdown seem to have fared best when it comes to seeking a balance between preventing economic decline and preventing deaths. Look at neighbouring Denmark, with only a few hundred deaths, and they took an economic hit similar to Sweden. 

 

It's possible that the next months will change this picture, but that would be wildly speculative. Herd immunity is very far away. I think only some places like Manhattan may have some form of herd immunity.

[Franch Toast 27,737]

Instead of praising Sweden, let's praise Taiwan. 

In total, Taiwan has had: 

503 total cases 

478 Recovered

7 Deaths

Taiwan is on a 5-month streak of no local transmissions of covid. 

Taiwan is close to China, and until travel restrictions were in place, there was a lot of travel between the two places. So how did Taiwan manage to quell covid in spite of its proximity to China and without lockdowns? In the beginning, everyone was extremely vigilant about mask-wearing. Amazing, isn't it? They also shut their borders early. 

https://thediplomat.com/2020/09/taiwans-covid-19-success-story-continues-as-neighbors-fend-off-new-outbreaks/

It’s a remarkable achievement for Taiwan, which recorded its first coronavirus case on January 21 and, that same month, was projected by experts to have the world’s second-worst outbreak after China.

Instead, life has remained normal. The country has never instituted lockdown measures and the vast majority of businesses remain open. The closure of borders to international travelers has led to a domestic tourism boom, with hotspots like Hualien, Taitung, and Kenting seeing overflows of Taiwanese visitors during the summer.

Most facemask and social distancing measures have been relaxed since the early months of the pandemic. Masks are still required on public transportation, and many Taiwanese still wear masks on crowded sidewalks or in enclosed areas like shopping malls.

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Despite its success in stamping out local transmission of COVID-19, Taiwan remains excluded from the World Health Organization. This remains unlikely to change as the United States – previously the highest-profile supporter of Taiwan’s bid to participate in WHO functions – has started the process of formally withdrawing from the WHO itself.

Aside from its isolation on the international stage, Taiwan has fended off escalated military aggression from China in recent weeks. Throughout it all, however, it has almost entirely fended off a pandemic that has impacted nearly every country in the world.

 

[Cherry Blues 349]

My opinion is, that to much of the corona subject in media, panic and wear mask will and must end soon - but i don't know when. When the process will be to long it can hurt the immune system also  - of course carefulnes was good and okay, but step by step many people will be immune and that's normal and good. Soon we will be fine.

[Debithius 6,056]

3 hours ago, lego said:

 

 

 

 

That number would have happened no matter what and other countries will catch up and have caught up even with lockdowns. What Sweden did was speeding up the inevitable and it worked.

[Debithius 6,056]

2 hours ago, Adrenaliner said:

Any other countries, including Finland, try to flatten the curve so that their health care system can handle the pressure Covid-19 cases gives to it. They try to make sure that they don't have to make the decisions of who gets the oxygen mask and who does not.

 Which was never a problem in Sweden.

[lego 44,165]

36 minutes ago, Debithius said:

That number would have happened no matter what and other countries will catch up and have caught up even with lockdowns. What Sweden did was speeding up the inevitable and it worked.

 

explain Finland 

[TEANUS 16,141]

The thing that no one wants to talk about with the US situation is how “more people” are contracting the virus than ever (the reality is that the virus has been spreading since February in the US but we know some people are asymptomatic, we’re just obviously testing much more than in the Spring), but less people than ever are dying, dramatically dropping the daily cases / deaths ratio, i.e. 30,000 cases / 2,000 deaths (the Spring) vs. 60,000 cases / 1,000 deaths (July/ Aug). AND even with increased testing, reopening, schools returning, gatherings of thousands in the streets shoulder to shoulder, the cases aren’t skyrocketing nationwide anymore, in fact they’re half of what they were in July/ August, which are all good signs, even though you still have to treat a virus like a virus, it’s an illness that can kill people, but it does seem to be a bit better of a situation than it was planned/ made out to be. 

[Debithius 6,056]

Just now, lego said:

 

explain Finland 

Whats with Finland

[Doot 2]

Yass! My people know what's up! Go Sweden!

[Bt1 5,213]

40 minutes ago, lego said:

 

explain Finland 

Maybe it wouldn't hurt to inform yourself. Check how many cases Finland had when it imposed the lockdown. Sweden had at the same time 10x times more cases, so even if it imposed the lockdown and  the lockdown would have worked similar to Finland, the number of deaths would have been bigger than in Finland. 

I actually mentioned n times that unfortunately for Sweden, the timing was bad. They had a holiday when covid started to spread in Europe. But somehow u are missing this information. 

Other things: different structure of nursing homes in Sweden, more migrant workers in Sweden that work with the elderly. 

anyway, the point of the thread is other. 

We know that Sweden had in may one of the biggest deaths per capita in europe. 3 months later with no lockdown, no masks, 50 -500 people events permitted, no schools closed they have solved the problem for now. 

but hey, let's ignore the reality. 

[Bt1 5,213]

1 hour ago, Franch Toast said:

Instead of praising Sweden, let's praise Taiwan. 

In total, Taiwan has had: 

503 total cases 

478 Recovered

7 Deaths

Taiwan is on a 5-month streak of no local transmissions of covid. 

Taiwan is close to China, and until travel restrictions were in place, there was a lot of travel between the two places. So how did Taiwan manage to quell covid in spite of its proximity to China and without lockdowns? In the beginning, everyone was extremely vigilant about mask-wearing. Amazing, isn't it? They also shut their borders early. 

https://thediplomat.com/2020/09/taiwans-covid-19-success-story-continues-as-neighbors-fend-off-new-outbreaks/

It’s a remarkable achievement for Taiwan, which recorded its first coronavirus case on January 21 and, that same month, was projected by experts to have the world’s second-worst outbreak after China.

Instead, life has remained normal. The country has never instituted lockdown measures and the vast majority of businesses remain open. The closure of borders to international travelers has led to a domestic tourism boom, with hotspots like Hualien, Taitung, and Kenting seeing overflows of Taiwanese visitors during the summer.

Most facemask and social distancing measures have been relaxed since the early months of the pandemic. Masks are still required on public transportation, and many Taiwanese still wear masks on crowded sidewalks or in enclosed areas like shopping malls.

...

Despite its success in stamping out local transmission of COVID-19, Taiwan remains excluded from the World Health Organization. This remains unlikely to change as the United States – previously the highest-profile supporter of Taiwan’s bid to participate in WHO functions – has started the process of formally withdrawing from the WHO itself.

Aside from its isolation on the international stage, Taiwan has fended off escalated military aggression from China in recent weeks. Throughout it all, however, it has almost entirely fended off a pandemic that has impacted nearly every country in the world.

 

Asia in general did great.