littlepotter 75,147 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Yes they are, did I say they are not? Some people think the word racist is some sort of mantra you have to say otherwise your argument is invalid That is absolutely vile, colorism is an issue everywhere in the world and even within some ethnicities chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,266 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Bollywood has a long history of promoting misogyny, patriarchy. This song is shaming Shakira Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 No. This is a wrong interpretation of the song. Let me clear this up. Bollywood has been and is racist, misogynist, homophobic and casteist. So, no point in defending Bollywood lol. But the backlash this song is facing is totally off the radar. The "fair-skinned lady" thing is a naively wrong interpretation of the hindi word "goriya". It usually means girl. It's like the skinny legend thing lol. There is no intention of referring to being skinny or thin. Here's the director's explanation: “First, without any hesitation or excuses we want to apologise to anyone offended. We assure you that the lyric in question was never intended racially. In fact, the term ‘goriya’ has been so often and traditionally used in Indian songs to address a girl, that it didn’t occur to any of us to interpret it in the literal manner. Also the comparison with Beyonce is simply meant to be a street-smart guy flattering a girl who is trying to impress that her dancing/performance is worth comparing to even Beyonce who we all see as the final word, the epitome of talent, beauty, performance, style and attitude. We are all huge fans, and there was never any question of disrespect.” Lyricist Kumaar added further, “Goriya as a word has been used in many Hindi songs earlier. Our idea was to simply use a synonym to ‘girl’. There is no derogation intended - we revere beauty of global celebrity Beyoncé and don’t mean to hurt any of her fans.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aarghya said: Well, thank you so much for saving my time! Also, the term can be used 'Colonial Fever'. Yes! That's the term. I couldn't remember and also was too lazy to Google "that colonial term about what happens after colonization" and stuff So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalGaga 29,581 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Besides the very obvious racism, imagine actually thinking that Beyonce, a literal goddess, would ever be jealous of anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 However, "goriya" once meant "fair girl" but now people use it simply as "girl" without reference to skin colour. They might have been careful and avoided the word because of its history. But I guess they didn't notic how it might backfire lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,266 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pennywise said: Yes! That's the term. I couldn't remember and also was too lazy to Google "that colonial term about what happens after colonization" and stuff I got you Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, buzzkill said: You mean... they are racists... Yes. And the racism is largely due it the European colonization. Only because Britain ruled India and disseminated the idea that fair skin is superior, the country has been suffering from a massive cultural inferiority complex. Before Britain colonized India, dark skin had no negative cultural connotations. The British left. But they left the racism. By the way, this is in no way meant to attack the present Britain. Just getting the history straight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Aarghya said: Bollywood has a long history of promoting misogyny, patriarchy. This song is shaming Shakira I don't remember the movie. Rani Mukherji is in it. She is raped by a man and she falls in love with the person and marries him. I had a heart attack seeing the movie. EDIT: not referring to the movie of the song you mentioned. This is another movie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexxx 5,647 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Wet Fire said: However, "goriya" once meant "fair girl" but now people use it simply as "girl" without reference to skin colour. They might have been careful and avoided the word because of its history. But I guess they didn't notic how it might backfire lol. nope it means fair girl... why did no one stop this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,266 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Wet Fire said: I don't remember the movie. Rani Mukherji is in it. She is raped by a man and she falls in love with the person and marries him. I had a heart attack seeing the movie. OMG! It's her debut film, Raja Ki Aayegi Baraat. Set Max used to show this movie a lot Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Sexxx said: nope it means fair girl... why did no one stop this I've actually seen and hard many people using it it refer to women who are not fair-skinned. As I was saying, the meaning of the word is changing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Aarghya said: OMG! It's her debut film, Raja Ki Aayegi Baraat. Set Max used to show this movie a lot Omg yes. It's actually her debut hindi film. Her debut film and only film before Raja ki ayegi whatever was a Bangla movie. I've seen it 19900 times on our local channels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,266 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Wet Fire said: Omg yes. It's actually her debut hindi film. Her debut film and only film before Raja ki ayegi whatever was a Bangla movie. I've seen it 19900 times on our local channels. Well as a Bangali, I never saw the Bangla version. What a shame! Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,735 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Aarghya said: Well as a Bangali, I never saw the Bangla version. What a shame! The movie is called 'Biyer Phool' lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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