NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just some side points 1. Mocking a “latino” accent is about as racist as mocking an “American” accent. My while Latina mom sounds almost exactly like Sofía. You can be offended by her mocking an accent but please use “racism” correctly and stop tearing down its meaning. 2. Stop giving the media so much credit. You can attack big TV shows or corporations but people who blindly follow actual threats to society aren’t manipulated or under control, they’re just tools. If making your liberal friend watch a week of Fox News turns them into a conservative that’s because they lack morals (and visa versa). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Nah, sorry homegurl. I know todays celebrities like to stick up for each other because they want to stay in the industry. The point is not that Ellen was just joking with a friend. The point is that she was insulting a guest. She’s a rude person, whether or not she’s racist. Do you even know Sofia Vergara’s brand of comedy? Literally her whole shtick is use an exaggerated thick accent, it’s incorporated into almost everything she does and she makes fun of it herself all the time. That accent is literally a big part of her success and popularity tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 59,560 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Reminds me of this Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindness Ponk 2,994 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I don’t think it was offensive begin with, y’all just need to accept that Ellen is pretty bad at comedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10inch 417 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: I'm not going to lie, as a Latino it made me uncomfortable and I didn't know it was a thing now or that people were complaining about it. I never did. But, that has been Sophia's thing for a while now. She took something that people made fun of and turned it into a multi-mullion dollar business. Like Charo did in the 80's. But it does give way to people who aren't as powerful as Sophia to be made fun of. I am a mexican with a very thick accent and it does not affect me at all. I don't feel less than because of my accent. Why should I feel uncomfortable if a friend gets me and I get him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Guapo said: It feels that you are forcibly trying to connect things in a way so you can satisfy your sensibility. You really want this to be something that is not. If a Ellen is comfortable with treating a powerful celebrity of colour like this in front of the cameras, how do you think she treats people of colour who aren’t celebrities behind closed doors? Racism exists everywhere in Hollywood. Behind the scenes, in the boardroom, in the magazines. What we see in front of the camera is the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE GGD 1,247 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Temptation said: If a Ellen is comfortable with treating a powerful celebrity of colour like this in front of the cameras, how do you think she treats people of colour who aren’t celebrities behind closed doors? Racism exists everywhere in Hollywood. Behind the scenes, in the boardroom, in the magazines. What we see in front of the camera is the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. You really want this to be something that is not. Thanks for trying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Guapo said: You really want this to be something that is not. Thanks for trying though. And you’re scared of people talking about racism in Hollywood. Thanks for not being part of the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, 10inch said: I am a mexican with a very thick accent and it does not affect me at all. I don't feel less than because of my accent. Why should I feel uncomfortable if a friend gets me and I get him? Because it's the same joke bullies use in school against Latinos with accents. I've seen it having gone to school in the US. I already made my comment empowering Sophia for turning a negative into a positive. I have nothing more to say. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, 10inch said: By reading "between the lines" things get out of context. Agreed. And I don’t even think Ellen is racist, nor do I want her to be cancelled. She’s a horrible person and rudely unfunny and hates 99% of her guests, but to Hollywood CEO’s and executives who ARE racist, they give her a free pass to be mean because it legitimises their own racism. This is the bigger context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE GGD 1,247 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Agreed. And I don’t even think Ellen is racist, nor do I want her to be cancelled. She’s a horrible person and rudely unfunny and hates 99% of her guests, but to Hollywood CEO’s and executives who ARE racist, they give her a free pass to be mean because it legitimises their own racism. This is the bigger context. Let's blame Ellen for the actions other awful people commit. Sounds about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Guapo said: Let's blame Ellen for the actions other awful people commit. Sounds about right. No, never said that. I said that racist Hollywood executives use Ellen’s cruel and envious behaviour as a scapegoat to perpetuate and hide systemic racism. Ellen isn’t responsible for the systemic racism behind the scenes, but she does make the casual racism that appears on screen seem quite acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE GGD 1,247 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Guapo said: Let's blame Ellen for the actions other awful people commit. Sounds about right. 43 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Agreed. And I don’t even think Ellen is racist, nor do I want her to be cancelled. She’s a horrible person and rudely unfunny and hates 99% of her guests, but to Hollywood CEO’s and executives who ARE racist, they give her a free pass to be mean because it legitimises their own racism. This is the bigger context. That's blaming her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,102 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 6 hours ago, NFRockwell said: “Doing drugs in movies is bad because people will think it’s ok to do drugs in real life” If people really are stupid enough to think watching two friends read a script on tv gives them the availability to be mock immigrants they don’t know then maybe that’s not a problem with Ellen’s show but the people who think it’s ok’s character. People are that stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE GGD 1,247 Posted August 23, 2020 Author Share Posted August 23, 2020 Is there a TRIGGERED reaction? Many on this thread need to use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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