Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Nah, sorry homegurl. I know todays celebrities like to stick up for each other because they want to stay in the industry. The point is not that Ellen was just joking with a friend. The point is that she was insulting a guest. She’s a rude person, whether or not she’s racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10inch 417 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Of course she was in on the joke, I don't think anyone doubted that. The point is Sofia Vergara is a rich, powerful woman. But a poor immigrant woman being made fun of by racists in real life is more damaging and airing this type of humor gives agency to this in real life. I personally don't think it's such a big deal and obviously it's a scripted scenario on the show, but I do see the point of critics. Yeah it seems you are taking this from where it has to be (between Ellen and Sofia) and putting into a different non related context. What does Sofía having fun with Ellen have to do with a poor immigrant woman being made fun of? Yes people are rude and racist but that´s not Ellen´s fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, M Monstre said: Well, let's learn to have nuance... On the Sofia Vergara stuff, I never found that stuff particularly offensive. Sofia, to me, has always seemed like she understands and takes the jokes in a very comical way. I don't think that Ellen was ever being racist or anything like that. As Sofia said, it's just two comedians knowing how to play jokes off of each other. That said, I hate this "Oh, everyone's just getting on this anti-Ellen hate bandwagon." Like, no, that's not it. Is wanting better work place conditions getting on the "hate bandwagon"? There are reports of bad working conditions over at the Ellen show, so why is Ellen getting called out all of a sudden a "hate bandwagon"? If there were legitimate wrongdoings over there, she needs to be held accountable. There’s also a difference between saying “I don’t like her because she created a toxic work environment” and saying “I never liked her because she seems arrogant”. It’s ok to want to call someone out for their wrong doings but things are always blown out of proportion when there’s a celebrity involved. She’s not the first employer who has made their employees uncomfortable (not that it’s ok) but because of who she is now many people are gonna go through her past interactions with guests on her show and try to smear her image as much as possible even without knowing if the allegations are true or not. It quickly evolved from “Ellen created a toxic workplace” to “Ellen is a racist”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, 10inch said: We are talking specifically of this matter. So Sofia has spoken and said she was all in on it. Of course now we know Ellen is no angel but one thing is being no angel and a total different thing being called a racist just because you get along well with someone and people get offended by it. Yeah I wouldnt say its racist, but like I said, why is that all she talks about when she sees her? I personally like mocking peoples accent and I dont see anything wrong with that if its a joke and I know the person is okay with it. But If thats all I do every time I see my black friend or indian friend, it would be a bit weird. Most of the time the other person would be okay with it because its a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10inch 417 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Lord Temptation said: Nah, sorry homegurl. I know todays celebrities like to stick up for each other because they want to stay in the industry. The point is not that Ellen was just joking with a friend. The point is that she was insulting a guest. She’s a rude person, whether or not she’s racist. Again taking something out of context to satisfy your sensibility. We have to stop this. The supposed "victim" was in on the joke. How does this affect you? If you went to the show and she made fun of you or treated you in a rude manner then I would understand your point of view. Sofia is one of the best paid actresses on tv, she is not a poor harmless woman being bullied by Ellen in no way. I don't think she is "sticking up" for her, she is just explaining HER PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, S0436 said: I’m offended that she was not offended Oh here it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Nah, sorry homegurl. I know todays celebrities like to stick up for each other because they want to stay in the industry. The point is not that Ellen was just joking with a friend. The point is that she was insulting a guest. She’s a rude person, whether or not she’s racist. So you’re just gonna completely ignore Sofía’s own comment about the “controversy” she’s in so you can continue to blame Ellen? This really is our generation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Nah, sorry homegurl. I know todays celebrities like to stick up for each other because they want to stay in the industry. The point is not that Ellen was just joking with a friend. The point is that she was insulting a guest. She’s a rude person, whether or not she’s racist. But it’s in the context of comedy. It’s her brand of humor, whether it’s actually funny or not is another matter. She does seem like a rude person, yea. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWICE on hatius 4,746 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, NFRockwell said: “Doing drugs in movies is bad because people will think it’s ok to do drugs in real life” If people really are stupid enough to think watching two friends read a script on tv gives them the availability to be mock immigrants they don’t know then maybe that’s not a problem with Ellen’s show but the people who think it’s ok’s character. Interesting of you bringing drugs up, because drug involved shows are usually not PG. And Ellen is a 11+ show though and racist behaviors are learnt unconsciously. So my only problem is if the show really wants to use these types of humors, they better adjust the age restriction Please ignore the spelling in username. I am a Beyonce stan afterall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10inch 417 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Yeah I wouldnt say its racist, but like I said, why is that all she talks about when she sees her? I personally like mocking peoples accent and I dont see anything wrong with that if its a joke and I know the person is okay with it. But If thats all I do every time I see my black friend or indian friend, it would be a bit weird. Most of the time the other person would be okay with it because its a joke. Well Sofia most of the time makes fun of Ellen´s age. Is she then an ageist? Cmon it´s a tv show. They try to make it fun and they go after each other for different things. Sofia goes for Ellens age and Ellen goes for Sofias accent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, 10inch said: Again taking something out of context to satisfy your sensibility. We have to stop this. The supposed "victim" was in on the joke. How does this affect you? If you went to the show and she made fun of you or treated you in a rude manner then I would understand your point of view. Sofia is one of the best paid actresses on tv, she is not a poor harmless woman being bullied by Ellen in no way. I don't think she is "sticking up" for her, she is just explaining HER PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. WhO CaRES WhAT ShE ThInKS WhEN IT GoEs AGaiNSt ThE PoInT IM TRyiNg To ProVE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, 10inch said: Again taking something out of context to satisfy your sensibility. We have to stop this. The supposed "victim" was in on the joke. How does this affect you? If you went to the show and she made fun of you or treated you in a rude manner then I would understand your point of view. Sofia is one of the best paid actresses on tv, she is not a poor harmless woman being bullied by Ellen in no way. I don't think she is "sticking up" for her, she is just explaining HER PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. There is nothing but pure hatred in Ellen’s eyes, voice and heart. I’ve always felt that way. This was just ONE thing. She hates anyone who isn’t more powerful than her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Thank you Sofia. I’m not at ALL on Ellen’s side, nor do I want to defend her. But this was very obviously in pure humor - even if it was rude. dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Lord Temptation said: There is nothing but pure hatred in Ellen’s eyes, voice and heart. I’ve always felt that way. This was just ONE thing. She hates anyone who isn’t more powerful than her. Honestly you sound ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10inch 417 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Guapo said: A lot of people were being sensitive of Ellen seemingly making fun of Sofia's accent. Well the actress took to twitter to drop her thoughts on that matter PS For all of you: NO ONE is defending Ellen rude behaviour that has come out as of lately but this is in regards of people calling Ellen racist simply because she was having fun with a friend of hers who was all in on the joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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