"Lazy lyrics" on Chromatica

[G U C C I 5,469]

1 hour ago, RudraCNG said:

That's an anaphora, it's a rhetorical device. I find it beautiful.

Learned something new today! Thanks!

56 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

CHROMATICA 101 for those bad at math

What do you think the sine curve is? A deconstructed representation of the circle. GAGA wrote these lyrics to feel empowered by the sweeping nature of sound. Hence, the patterns convey messages that need to be repeated. This is why the sentences have an elliptical shape.

This is actually genius. Combining geometry with acoustics with lingustics and psychology. Try harder to comprehend.

Yes I understand the concept and yes it is genius. I also think its genius that the chorus of 911 sounds a little dull and  monotonous compared to the rest of the song that is talking about taking anti psychotic medication which is how that medication literally makes you feel.  As a whole I can appreciate the album for being a piece of art and very smart with the concept. But to randomly have one of them play on shuffle makes certain individual aspects of the songs stand out and not necessarily in a good way for me. 

[ARTGOD 3,266]

I’ve been thinking about this lately and I think the problem is this:

For a songs’ lyrics to be good to me they have to be interesting in different levels.

1- The main topic of the song (Love, Friendship, Death, Partying). Choosing a topic that is not overdone makes it harder for you to make something cliche.

2- The perspective you bring about the topic (If the song is about love what do you have to say about it? Is it about heartbreak? Who was at fault? What was the relationship like?).

3- Do you have a unique metaphor or catchy concept to make your lyrics stand out from songs that tackle similar topics? (Diamond Heart to represent inner strength, Marrying the Night to represent accepting life’s hardships, getting a Manicure to represent getting over an ex).

4- The actual words you use to talk about the thing. The more poetic and beautiful your writing is the more it will stand out.

I think Gaga has always been great at writing lyrics that are great in most if not all these different levels. She usually gets s*** for writing about love and sex a lot, but people often overlook the actual unique perspective she brings, the original metaphors she makes, and the funny lyrics she creates.

Take a look at a song like G.U.Y.

It’s about sex, so in that regard there isn’t anything unique about it. The actual perspective she has about sex in the song though, is about power dynamics and gender roles, something much more interesting and unique. Then, not content with only that, she comes up with the G.U.Y. acronym that is instantly memorable. Then the actual lyrics of the song are full of funny and quotable lyrics like “please retweet”, “greetings himeros...” and “nein zedd”.

G.U.Y. is not a unique example, her discography is FULL with songs like this, with interesting concepts for unique perspectives and memorable quotables.

The problem with Chromatica’s lyrics is that they’re generally more generic and unoriginal in every level. Her songs used to tick at least 3/4 of these boxes, while in Chomatica that is not quite the case.

The songs are still about broad topics like they used to be, but she struggles to come up with a unique perspective, cool metaphor or memorable quotables more often than she used to.

Being Alice looking for wonderland, feeling like a plastic doll or using rain to represent hard times are metaphors, yes, but they are like the most obvious ones you could come up with.

In other songs she doesn’t even bother coming up with one, like with Stupid Love, Free Woman and Fun Tonight.

Her lyrics this time feel way too generic, because she’s talking about topics that have been done to death, she fails to come up with a unique perspective a lot of the time, she struggles to find unique metaphors, and then the actual words she uses are often obvious and cliché.

The saving grace with the album’s lyrics are the songs about mental health, which is actually a topic that hasn’t been overdone. With these songs she can get away with not coming up with cool wordplay because the actual topic is still novel.

I think the uniqueness of her lyrics has been declining since Joanne, but I thought that album still had enough interesting lyrics, and the simpler lyrics weren’t exactly a detractor because it was supposed to be a personal, stripped back album.

Chromatica is way more high concept than that, so it needed way more interesting lyrics, and for the most part it didn’t deliver.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[S0436 10,215]

“You love the paparazzi love the fame even though you know it causes me pain” 

[KingRedd 3,139]

Thank The Stars none of you write music... and if you do...

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

One of my favourite songs but rhyming “numb” with “dumb” in Replay is quite predictable 

[holy scheisse 22,272]

8 minutes ago, S0436 said:

“You love the paparazzi love the fame even though you know it causes me pain” 

That lines beautiful tho. It potentially has double meaning. On one hand it is self referential to her early days and could be about how ppl keep her trapped in a box of her heyday and trash her work that explores beyond the box of the fame image/sound. On the other hand, it could also be just face value that the ppl she has been with have reveled in the associated level of fame they get by being with her but she hates being reduced to that and wants something more human and meaningful 

 

Anyway

[G U C C I 5,469]

8 minutes ago, ARTGOD said:

I’ve been thinking about this lately and I think the problem is this:

For a songs’ lyrics to be good to me they have to be interesting in different levels.

1- The main topic of the song (Love, Friendship, Death, Partying). Choosing a topic that is not overdone makes it harder for you to make something cliche.

2- The perspective you bring about the topic (If the song is about love what do you have to say about it? Is it about heartbreak? Who was at fault? What was the relationship like?).

3- Do you have a unique metaphor or catchy concept to make your lyrics stand out from songs that tackle similar topics? (Diamond Heart to represent inner strength, Marrying the Night to represent accepting life’s hardships, getting a Manicure to represent getting over an ex).

4- The actual words you use to talk about the thing. The more poetic and beautiful your writing is the more it will stand out.

I think Gaga has always been great at writing lyrics that are great in most if not all these different levels. She usually gets s*** for writing about love and sex a lot, but people often overlook the actual unique perspective she brings, the original metaphors she makes, and the funny lyrics she creates.

Take a look at a song like G.U.Y.

It’s about sex, so in that regard there isn’t anything unique about it. The actual perspective she has about sex in the song though, is about power dynamics and gender roles, something much more interesting and unique. Then, not content with only that, she comes up with the G.U.Y. acronym that is instantly memorable. Then the actual lyrics of the song are full of funny and quotable lyrics like “please retweet”, “greetings himeros...” and “nein zedd”.

G.U.Y. is not a unique example, her discography is FULL with songs like this, with interesting concepts for unique perspectives and memorable quotables.

The problem with Chromatica’s lyrics is that they’re generally more generic and unoriginal in every level. Her songs used to tick at least 3/4 of these boxes, while in Chomatica that is not quite the case.

The songs are still about broad topics like they used to be, but she struggles to come up with a unique perspective, cool metaphor or memorable quotables more often than she used to.

Being Alice looking for wonderland, feeling like a plastic doll or using rain to represent hard times are metaphors, yes, but they are like the most obvious ones you could come up with.

In other songs she doesn’t even bother coming up with one, like with Stupid Love, Free Woman and Fun Tonight.

Her lyrics this time feel way too generic, because she’s taking about topics that have been done to death, she fails to come up with a unique perspective a lot of the time, she struggles to find unique metaphors, and then the actual words she uses are often obvious and cliché.

The saving grace with the album’s lyrics are the songs about mental health, which is actually a topic that hasn’t been overdone. With these songs she can get away with not coming up with cool wordplay because the actual topic is still novel.

I think the uniqueness of her lyrics has been declining since Joanne, but I thought that album still had enough interesting lyrics, and the simpler lyrics weren’t exactly a detractor because it was supposed to be a personal, stripped back album.

Chromatica is way more high concept than that, so it needed way more interesting lyrics, and for the most part it didn’t deliver.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

 

T H I S. This is it. 

I would like to add that a lot of it also seems to be who she works with on the albums and songs that reflect in the songwriting as well. I firmly believe if she had of put herself out of her comfort zone (I know she was horrendously depressed and they helped her but this album is her work/art) and worked with new people it could have pushed her more. 

[Doot 2]

Chromatica is lyrically not my favorite work from her but overall, I still enjoy it. 

I do think many of the songs have a weird structure though. 

[HeavyMetalLover 16]

Imagine knowing what Gaga went though when creating this album and still being this bitter and unconstructive with your "criticism." Try again. 

[Putang Ina Mo 2,179]

 

20 minutes ago, ARTGOD said:

I’ve been thinking about this lately and I think the problem is this:

For a songs’ lyrics to be good to me they have to be interesting in different levels.

1- The main topic of the song (Love, Friendship, Death, Partying). Choosing a topic that is not overdone makes it harder for you to make something cliche.

2- The perspective you bring about the topic (If the song is about love what do you have to say about it? Is it about heartbreak? Who was at fault? What was the relationship like?).

3- Do you have a unique metaphor or catchy concept to make your lyrics stand out from songs that tackle similar topics? (Diamond Heart to represent inner strength, Marrying the Night to represent accepting life’s hardships, getting a Manicure to represent getting over an ex).

4- The actual words you use to talk about the thing. The more poetic and beautiful your writing is the more it will stand out.

I think Gaga has always been great at writing lyrics that are great in most if not all these different levels. She usually gets s*** for writing about love and sex a lot, but people often overlook the actual unique perspective she brings, the original metaphors she makes, and the funny lyrics she creates.

Take a look at a song like G.U.Y.

It’s about sex, so in that regard there isn’t anything unique about it. The actual perspective she has about sex in the song though, is about power dynamics and gender roles, something much more interesting and unique. Then, not content with only that, she comes up with the G.U.Y. acronym that is instantly memorable. Then the actual lyrics of the song are full of funny and quotable lyrics like “please retweet”, “greetings himeros...” and “nein zedd”.

G.U.Y. is not a unique example, her discography is FULL with songs like this, with interesting concepts for unique perspectives and memorable quotables.

The problem with Chromatica’s lyrics is that they’re generally more generic and unoriginal in every level. Her songs used to tick at least 3/4 of these boxes, while in Chomatica that is not quite the case.

The songs are still about broad topics like they used to be, but she struggles to come up with a unique perspective, cool metaphor or memorable quotables more often than she used to.

Being Alice looking for wonderland, feeling like a plastic doll or using rain to represent hard times are metaphors, yes, but they are like the most obvious ones you could come up with.

In other songs she doesn’t even bother coming up with one, like with Stupid Love, Free Woman and Fun Tonight.

Her lyrics this time feel way too generic, because she’s talking about topics that have been done to death, she fails to come up with a unique perspective a lot of the time, she struggles to find unique metaphors, and then the actual words she uses are often obvious and cliché.

The saving grace with the album’s lyrics are the songs about mental health, which is actually a topic that hasn’t been overdone. With these songs she can get away with not coming up with cool wordplay because the actual topic is still novel.

I think the uniqueness of her lyrics has been declining since Joanne, but I thought that album still had enough interesting lyrics, and the simpler lyrics weren’t exactly a detractor because it was supposed to be a personal, stripped back album.

Chromatica is way more high concept than that, so it needed way more interesting lyrics, and for the most part it didn’t deliver.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

THIS THIS THIS THIS! I LOVE GAGA BUT IT'S KINDA TRUE

[ARTGOD 3,266]

4 minutes ago, LVbuttondown said:

 

T H I S. This is it. 

I would like to add that a lot of it also seems to be who she works with on the albums and songs that reflect in the songwriting as well. I firmly believe if she had of put herself out of her comfort zone (I know she was horrendously depressed and they helped her but this album is her work/art) and worked with new people it could have pushed her more. 

When she explained how horribly depressed she was and how her producers pretty much helped lift her up I instantly understood why the album is the way it is.

The uniquely creative, perfectionist and controlling Gaga that made her other albums just wasn’t here. She lets her producers basically carry the album because she’s just physically incapable to do so herself.

I would’ve loved an album that took her out of her comfort zone and truly exploited her creativity, but considering her state of mind I think an album like Chromatica that is a much more care free and collaborative effort basically meant to get her creative engines running again was the right move.

I think Chromatica is basically the best we could’ve gotten considering the situation.

I hope Chromatica helped her heal and rekindle her love for music, because I would love to see that experimental, groundbreaking and fearless side of Gaga again.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

46 minutes ago, LVbuttondown said:

Learned something new today! Thanks!

Yes I understand the concept and yes it is genius. I also think its genius that the chorus of 911 sounds a little dull and  monotonous compared to the rest of the song that is talking about taking anti psychotic medication which is how that medication literally makes you feel.  As a whole I can appreciate the album for being a piece of art and very smart with the concept. But to randomly have one of them play on shuffle makes certain individual aspects of the songs stand out and not necessarily in a good way for me. 

Fair enough. To be honest I usually listen to the album the way Gaga intended, as single body of work from start to finish. So for me it feels like the sounds transcend the spaces between.

Like how she repeats the line “set me free”  in both Alice and Sine From Above, or how when she says “Lift me up give me a start” in SFA it sounds like she is saying “Lift me give me a star”, while on Replay when she sings “The scars on my mind...” it sounds like “The stars on my mind”. You literally get the sense of travelling in deep space, or in deep consciousness  hearing the album in full. There is a fractal nature to the sonics that only reveal itself upon hearing the album in it’s entirety and listening to only individual songs those patterns somehow become invisible.

Eg that “frozen” chorus in 911 becomes an intensely dizzying void, like a bad trip and you’re just....waiting...., or how listening to Babylon at the end of the album gives it so much texture and it sounds SO much more euphoric than just hearing it by itself. 

[nativenewyorker 1,190]

Pointless nit-picking post. If you have better ideas for writing songs, do it yourself. 

[SchwineLove 1,374]

2 hours ago, Vergil said:

I mean the whole album is lazy af

your brain is lazy

[My Name Isnt Alice 3,737]

I think the lyrics is written in the most simple way so that anything she writes will become her purest form I mean chromatica is about her personal life and what she feels. In my opinion it's not made to be lyrically stunning and notice that the most lyrically "lacking" songs are the ones that are most personal 

 

And they wanted it to be timeless (they said it on gagaradio) and to be timeless means less fashion and more objective