ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I like a lot of her music, and I like her. But I believe people can hate someone based on what they contribute to the world. Or lack thereof. Certain groups of people (some women and POC) are indirectly affected by the narratives and dynamics she perpetuates for her "brand". And those narratives and dynamics further fuel systems of male dominance and white privilege. Yes, she is entitled to let white men influence her emotions however she pleases, but there are also consequences. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: it would've taken u less time reading my comment within context instead of writing all that. that user was saying tay is capitalistic and treats her rich fans better. when gaga herself does that too. after cancelling her latest "world" tour twice that wasn't even a world tour by any stretch of the imagination, she went to vegas and was telling her fans to go there instead. the expensive meet and greets, brand deals etc. it's not worth it. the sycophants will defend everything gaga/taylor will do because of the emotional connection to them through their music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover2 706 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: it would've taken u less time reading my comment within context instead of writing all that. that user was saying tay is capitalistic and treats her rich fans better. when gaga herself does that too. after cancelling her latest "world" tour twice that wasn't even a world tour by any stretch of the imagination, she went to vegas and was telling her fans to go there instead. the expensive meet and greets, brand deals etc. And I say again: u r just spilling some pure and pointless b*llshit. Can you explain how a residency is treating her rich fans better? I've literally been to the BTWB once and that's it. Why would I be mad at that fact that she decided to have a residency in Vegas? Oh no she makes money - naughty Gaga And you imagine a world tour being a concert in every country and city possible? Get out of that delulu train lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir 17,695 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I just lost braincells watching this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Tookie 10,546 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, MonsterMom said: She makes music for 12 year olds. How am I suppose to like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover2 706 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: it's not worth it. the sycophants will defend everything gaga/taylor will do because of the emotional connection to them through their music. Another b*llshit comment this is explaining my pov, not defending. Sorry you can't comprehend rightly what I wrote. I can't with the people around jelous of the amount of money Gaga makes. If you are a fan - be a fan, why bother counting someone elses money etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, JustHMLover2 said: And I say again: u r just spilling some pure and pointless b*llshit. Can you explain how a residency is treating her rich fans better? And you imagine a world tour being a concert in every country and city possible? Get out of that delulu train lmao I was giving examples similar to the ones that user gave if you have some repressed anger about the circus residency getting dragged this isn't the thread for it Just now, JustHMLover2 said: Another b*llshit comment this is explaining, not defending. I can't with the amount of people around jelous of the amount of money Gaga makes. If you are a fan - be a fan, why bother counting someone elses money etc? literally no one is jealous or angry someone called tay capitalistic so I gave examples from gaga's recent years and you ran here without reading the context or anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover2 706 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, FlopSlurper said: I was giving examples similar to the ones that user gave if you have some repressed anger about the circus residency getting dragged this isn't the thread for it literally no one is jealous or angry someone called tay capitalistic so I gave examples from gaga's recent years and you ran here without reading the context or anything Go on, explain nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Velvet 10,988 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Venusfly said: T Swift’s music is incredibly basic & middle of the road Well, even if I am a fan, yeah, incredibly basic with the exclusion of some RED tracks for me. I'm like some kind of supernova Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, JustHMLover2 said: Another b*llshit comment this is explaining my pov, not defending. Sorry you can't comprehend rightly what I wrote. I can't with the people around jelous of the amount of money Gaga makes. If you are a fan - be a fan, why bother counting someone elses money etc? I can comprehend just fine. I am a fan of Gaga and I always will be. That doesn't mean that I am going to blindly agree with her politics and the things that she does. I will always be a fan of Gaga's music but I will forever be in opposition to her politics. I'm not jealous of the money Gaga makes. Instead, I am angry at a society that concentrates wealth to the detriment of the rest of society's lack of healthcare, housing and education. There is a difference and it's not like it's anything personal to Gaga (i.e. I feel the same about Gaga as I do about Taylor or anybody else with millions of dollars). Do I think they are terrible people? Most of them aren't but to deny that they are the prime beneficiaries of the political and economic reality of our country is what is actually bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo 7,915 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Can someone give a TLDR; ? 30 minutes is too long tbh Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRichie 2,013 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 The actual question here is why do people defend her so much? Why all the excuses for people who don’t? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawsUpJago 1,958 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Not sexist, I dislike her for making below mediocre level pop music and getting her arse licked for something I perceive to be a genuine lack of artistry and creativity. I will just never understand what she has brought to pop music that is so game changing? But yeah, because it's Taylor's music, any kind of negativity surrounding her is suddenly sexist? **** outta here 🤷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Sorry, I’m not watching a 30 minute opinion piece. I certainly don’t hate her, but I think there’s a lack of flavor in her work and everything she does comes off as incredibly underwhelming. I’ve given her a chance but every time I listen to her, I’m transported back to Intro to Creative Writing class. It has nothing to do with sexism, I just find her music and personality to be grating and one-note. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 hours ago, SeIena Gomez said: 3) I love Selena’s music because it’s unique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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