Harry & Meghan biography slammed by critics

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57 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

1. If it really were these people, I would use their full names.

2. Why would the people you think it's about have biographies written about them as a couple?

3. "Harry and Meghan" is a very well-known duo name in pop culture right now, it shouldn't cause confusion.

4. If that's all you can say, why post it? It's not on-topic and doesn't contribute anything.

1. How am I supposed to know you’d be clever enough to use full names, I don’t know you. 
 

2. Thats why I clicked on the thread in the first place because I was curious. 
 

3. I don’t follow “Harry & Meghan” which is why confusion was first brought upon. 
 

4. I was responding to someone’s post on here which is contributing to a conversation, therefore I said what I said. 
 

Like you said... free speech- it’s not illegal yet. 

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1 hour ago, SLAG said:

Assumption does not equate too reality. Azealia, Trump and Biden have made comments publicly that have shown who they are as people. What exactly have Meghan and Harry done/said? Other than what tabloids have reported that's shown them to be indecent?

Because of the nature of their institution, it's rare to hear royals make public statements, so we have to go on a lot of what's reported from those who work with them and suchlike. I'm sure you believe stuff that's said about celebrities you dislike without proof, why are these two any different? @KanyeWest already detailed a lot of stuff. I've got a bit more and please read it because you need to hear this stuff that you've apparently missed.

It's clear that Meghan has told a lot of lies as they've caught her out many a time. How quickly she moves on from relationships and friendships is particularly concerning. You'll notice that as soon as she went higher up the fame ladder, she dropped everyone who came before her and got a new group of friends and then dropped them when they were no longer of use to her. The fact she only had one family member at her wedding is a massive red flag. If you find old interviews of her before she met Harry, she waxes lyrical about her dad with no mention of her mother, now she disowns her dad, all because he was manipulated into faking pictures with the paparazzi. Which is rich coming from her as she claimed that America doesn't have tabloid culture so she never understood it when she moved to the UK and this was despite her calling the paps on her when she was an unknown actress and temporarily living in the UK before she met Harry. All that stuff came out recently and we have the old photos to prove it. She became close to Lizzie Cundy and asked her to set her up with a rich British man. She was flirting with C-list stars like Oliver Cheshire and Matt Cardle on Twitter just before she met Harry, so it's clear she was on the prowl for a rich man who would be charmed by her American accent and who she could use to proceed with her career.

Another reason a lot of us disliked her was when she got too big for her boots, demanding seats be cleared around her at Wimbledon (something no royal has ever done and denying those ticket holders their seats) and even got security to remove a guy who was innocently taking a selfie near her because it was suspected he was taking photos of her, even though Wimbledon is a public event where anyone can end up onscreen. When she had Archie, she also refused to give the public any details or even show his face, essentially snubbing us after we paid for her wedding and making us feel like we weren't good enough to see her child. The idea that we'd be paying for a child who they wanted to be a private citizen certainly didn't go down well.

As for Harry, he's completely changed since he got with her, it's clear she's changed him and not for the better. He used to be fun-loving and carefree, now he's anxious and wants to preach to everyone. While I was never his biggest fan to begin with (unlike most Britons, the cheeky chappie persona doesn't do it for me), there's no denying that he's changed and it's tough to watch. I'm glad he's stopped engaging in the antics of his past but that certainly means that he shouldn't be the one to be lecturing us about tackling things like racism when he was guilty of this stuff once himself and I don't believe he ever apologised for it.

37 minutes ago, papergangster said:

1. How am I supposed to know you’d be clever enough to use full names, I don’t know you. 
 

2. Thats why I clicked on the thread in the first place because I was curious. 
 

3. I don’t follow “Harry & Meghan” which is why confusion was first brought upon. 
 

4. I was responding to someone’s post on here which is contributing to a conversation, therefore I said what I said. 
 

Like you said... free speech- it’s not illegal yet. 

I just say this because similar stuff always comes up when any thread is posted about a celebrity who doesn't have a unique name. People make posts with all they can say being "I thought this was about _____" which is very annoying when there's more than one reply like this. I've done that before but I wouldn't post about it, it's just unnecessary and derails the thread. I was barely getting any responses other than those from people who made statements like this, which is why I said what I did. I see you seem fairly new so you're maybe not aware of this issue and I certainly wasn't trying to target you in a mean way, just pointing out an annoyance. Just because you misunderstood what something meant doesn't mean you need to announce it to everyone.

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17 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I just say this because similar stuff always comes up when any thread is posted about a celebrity who doesn't have a unique name. People make posts with all they can say being "I thought this was about _____" which is very annoying when there's more than one reply like this. I've done that before but I wouldn't post about it, it's just unnecessary and derails the thread. I was barely getting any responses other than those from people who made statements like this, which is why I said what I did. I see you seem fairly new so you're maybe not aware of this issue and I certainly wasn't trying to target you in a mean way, just pointing out an annoyance. Just because you misunderstood what something meant doesn't mean you need to announce it to everyone.

You really think I’m new here? Check my join date, it’s the same as yours. So don’t tell me how or what I should be posting. It’s users like you that has kept me from posting in the past which is why you may think I’m new.

 

But anyways, back on topic. Maybe I’ll give it a read. 

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9 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

As for Harry, he's completely changed since he got with her, it's clear she's changed him and not for the better. He used to be fun-loving and carefree, now he's anxious and wants to preach to everyone. While I was never his biggest fan to begin with (unlike most Britons, the cheeky chappie persona doesn't do it for me), there's no denying that he's changed and it's tough to watch.

I don't think he's changed I think this is the real Harry. He's not a kind person either, and not the sharpest tool in the shed 

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17 hours ago, papergangster said:

You really think I’m new here? Check my join date, it’s the same as yours. So don’t tell me how or what I should be posting. It’s users like you that has kept me from posting in the past which is why you may think I’m new.

 

But anyways, back on topic. Maybe I’ll give it a read. 

I just assumed looking at your reputation points that you hadn't been around long or rarely posted. As I said, this wasn't a personal attack on you, I was just commenting on something that you might not be aware of, hardly something that should keep you off posting.

7 hours ago, KanyeWest said:

I don't think he's changed I think this is the real Harry. He's not a kind person either, and not the sharpest tool in the shed 

The real Harry just isn't very bright and rather spoiled and entitled. But I don't think he's naturally woke or obsessed with putting himself out into the celebrity sphere and wanting to change the world. That side of him I suspect has been forced onto him. The way Meghan stares at him like a hawk every time he speaks is like someone who's thinking: "Say what I told you, don't you dare mess up." Compete with a death grip on his hand/arm.

Did you hear it turns out they've secretly been living in their own mansion since June? Obviously, Charles gave them the money for the down payment. It was originally $34 million a few years ago, dropped down to $14.6 million as it wouldn't sell. They took out a $9.5 million mortgage to pay it off. It's over 14000 sq ft, sits on 5.4 acres of land. It has 9 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms, library, office, spa, hot and wet sauna, gym, games room, arcade, movie theater, wine cellar, tea house, children's cottage, guest house, pool, tennis court and 5 car garage, all located on a private road on a secluded estate. And while the house may be quite easily bought and paid for, the upkeep will fast outstrip the cost in a very short space of time. When you factor in mortgage, property tax, utility bills, staff and security, it'll cost them an estimated $4.4 million a year. The carbon footprint on this outrageous display of wealth must be through the roof. You can't call yourself eco-conscious or a philanthropist when this is how you live. You just can't. If Meghan doesn't get any acting roles or presenting gigs and Harry doesn't get any kind of job anytime soon, they're going to be so in debt it's not even funny. And Charles won't be around forever to pay for them either and I doubt any of the other royals will want to buy them out, particularly because they'll be doing it with taxpayer's money. I don't even think a lot of their celebrity neighbours will be that impressed by the fact that all their fortune was given to them, that they haven't worked hard to earn it like they have. If they ever do divorce and they let Harry back into the royals, he'll have to be stripped of his title, be removed from the line of succession, not accept any taxpayer's money and be forced to get a proper job. Maybe then the British public might just accept him living here again but things won't go back to the way they were pre-Meghan.

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Everyone from that family is awful in some way or the other... people been known

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20 hours ago, Towelney said:

I thought this was a thread about Meghan Trainor 

The raise and fall of Meghan The Trainor 

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They're basically celebrities at this point. 

They should go to oblivion, next to the whole royal family. 

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20 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

The pure, undiluted voice of H&M

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I don’t expect the royal family to be polite and nice. They are an institution, with marketing exercises and all. The British press can be cruel too. However I think that the couple bit more than they could chew, and that they cannot just challenge an ancient institution to bend down to their wills. It’s easy to paint Meghan as the mean girl, when I think Harry is just as on board with everything.

Maybe if they had a small wedding and Harry stopped being a senior royal immediately there would have been not so much fuss. 

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2 hours ago, Kimihiro said:

I don’t expect the royal family to be polite and nice. They are an institution, with marketing exercises and all. The British press can be cruel too. However I think that the couple bit more than they could chew, and that they cannot just challenge an ancient institution to bend down to their wills. It’s easy to paint Meghan as the mean girl, when I think Harry is just as on board with everything.

Maybe if they had a small wedding and Harry stopped being a senior royal immediately there would have been not so much fuss. 

It was made clear in the book that they got along fine with the Queen and Charles. That the Queen gave Meghan a masterclass in how to be royal and that she saw Charles as a second father. It was just Kate and William who they made subtle digs at constantly. That's why there's a huge backlash over them for acting in a way that would suggest jealousy, annoyed that they weren't the next in line to the throne instead seeing as they and their children were the ones standing in their way of ever ruling this country. Though I have no doubt that Meghan genuinely thought being a royal would be the same as being a celebrity and that she could change the institution, not realising that she held no power whatsoever.