imitalian 3,163 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said: Is it respectful to criticize Gaga’s choices when it comes to her work, during an unprecedented year of chaos and uncertainty? And to say she’s full of excuses? Yes? Are we supposed to praise everytime she does something (nothing)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucee 1,690 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pennywise said: And we do not owe her any praise, next. hello hello baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, imitalian said: Yes? Are we supposed to praise everytime she does something (nothing)? No, I suppose not. But an ounce of compassion and gratitude wouldn’t hurt. We don’t have to like every artistic choice she makes, that’s fair, but it gets messy when people assume they know better than her or her team. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imitalian 3,163 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, HeavyMetalLover said: No, I suppose not. But an ounce of compassion and gratitude wouldn’t hurt. We don’t have to like every artistic choice she makes, that’s fair, but it gets messy when people assume they know better than her or her team. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Bloodpop made her CRY on her birthday cause he hated the material she had for LG6 and we're supposed to stfu and be grateful? Are you going to tell Bloodpop that she doesnt owe him anythig as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, imitalian said: Bloodpop made her CRY on her birthday cause he hated the material she had for LG6 and we're supposed to stfu and be grateful? Are you going to tell Bloodpop that she doesnt owe him anythig as well? Lmao are you serious? She agreed that she KNEW the music wasn’t any good - that is was BS. He was just calling her out for something she already knew to be true. They have a long professional and personal relationship. That’s what friends do. Completely different from fans sh*tting on every decision she makes, with zero insight into what is happening on the other side. I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make about Gaga not owing BP anything. So... Also, if you relisten to the interview, you’ll notice one of the very first things they discuss is how he doesn’t remember disliking any material. Let alone hating it. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The stans who always are saying nasty things to her and then excusing themselves with "It's my opinion" are the worst and definitelly the ones who are the most problematic. I'm sorry but that's not an opinion, that's just you being a f*cking asshole to her because your life pretty much depends on what she does and if she doesn't "entertain" you enough, then you start being mad at her for something that is much more likely YOUR problem. As a fanbase we should definitelly show more support to Gaga and by this I dont mean that we should like everything that she does but remember why we are here, remember that we support a human being with emotions that also has her struggles that has shown us love and support all the time. If we don't show her love and support now then when? When she's going to be 6 feet under the ground and realize what we just lost and blame the days when we were assholes to her? You don't have to love everything that she does to love, support and be a bit more kind to her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOOK 76,406 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 It’s probably why they don’t like Plastic Doll (one of the album’s best), seeing themselves in the song for treating her like such, so... AM I-E-I-E-I-E-I-E-I-E TECHNOLOGIC!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imitalian 3,163 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, HeavyMetalLover said: Lmao are you serious? She agreed that she KNEW the music wasn’t any good - that is was BS. He was just calling her out for something she already knew to be true. They have a long professional and personal relationship. That’s what friends do. Completely different from fans sh*tting on every decision she makes, with zero insight into what is happening on the other side. I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make about Gaga not owing BP anything. So... Its just that some fans will excuse anything she does while others actually want something from her that we know shes capable of; different points of view and i thing we should respect each other. This is Gaga forum after all and if I wanna say im disappointed on how the era is being managed i shouldnt be attacked with 7372637 “Gaga doesnt owe you anything” threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pennywise said: And we do not owe her any praise, next. How could you- I guess you didn't choose this profile picture for no reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuphoricVibez 9 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pennywise said: And we do not owe her any praise, next. And she doesn't owe us any music, next. He/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said: Lmao are you serious? She agreed that she KNEW the music wasn’t any good - that is was BS. He was just calling her out for something she already knew to be true. They have a long professional and personal relationship. That’s what friends do. This. A true friend tells their friend when they're going in the wrong direction. Just take a look at ARTPOP. The album is a mess production-wise (many songs recycled from unknown artists, weird/inexistant transition between tracks, the album's lack of cohesion) and it looks like none of the producers told her that. I'd prefer someone told me that what I'm doing is wrong instead of watching me do some bullshit and say nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, imitalian said: Its just that some fans will excuse anything she does while others actually want something from her that we know shes capable of; different points of view and i thing we should respect each other. This is Gaga forum after all and if I wanna say im disappointed on how the era is being managed i shouldnt be attacked with 7372637 “Gaga doesnt owe you anything” threads. Okay, I think you may have misinterpreted their conversation is all I’m trying to say. I think finding a balance of respect and constructive criticism is really important. There isn’t much that needs to be “excused” - she’s not problematic. And no one’s attacking you. These threads are in response to the constant bashing that has been dragging on for months. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuphoricVibez 9 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Gagadonna said: This. A true friend tells their friend when they're going in the wrong direction. Just take a look at ARTPOP. The album is a mess production-wise (many songs recycled from unknown artists, weird/inexistant transition between tracks, the album's lack of cohesion) and it looks like none of the producers told her that. I'd prefer someone told me that what I'm doing is wrong instead of watching me do some bullshit and say nothing. Exactly this. BloodPop was only stating that the music, that Gaga was making at the time, was not true to herself. It doesn't mean he did, or didn't like it. He/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said: Lmao are you serious? She agreed that she KNEW the music wasn’t any good - that is was BS. He was just calling her out for something she already knew to be true. They have a long professional and personal relationship. That’s what friends do. Completely different from fans sh*tting on every decision she makes, with zero insight into what is happening on the other side. I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make about Gaga not owing BP anything. So... Also, if you relisten to the interview, you’ll notice one of the very first things they discuss is how he doesn’t remember disliking any material. Let alone hating it. Not to mention that even if Bloodpop WAS being an asshole, that doesn’t excuse fans doing it too haha. “We can be demanding and nasty because someone else made her cry once” is the biggest stretch I’ve seen lately reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Some points were made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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