Bernie Sanders proposes "Make Billionaires Pay Act"

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1 minute ago, DavieX said:

Myth?  Are you serious?  Of couse the average person is not worth as much but then again the average person hasn't created as much.  Why is that soo hard to understand?

Created as much what? Jobs? Jeff Bezos has not created 1.75 million jobs by that matter.

Amazon employs roughly about 700K, of which around 150K work in warehouses earning on average 32K a year (which is really not a livable wage) with very middle-of-the-pack benefits. So he is sitting on billions of dollars in wealth while paying the very employees who do the heavy lifting the absolute minimum, while they keep his company running. It is not ethical. No matter how you run the numbers, it does not make sense. 

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39 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

...He didn't get enough votes because the media and the DNC actively worked against him.

Older voters swung the election for Biden, and they voted for Biden because every liberal or neo-con commentator on every major cable news show (for whom the average viewer is 50-60+) spent the last five years presenting the notion of a Bernie Sanders candidacy as an electoral disaster and parroted the line that we needed a "moderate" to beat Trump. The DNC met years in advance specifically to come up with a strategy to prevent him from winning, former Clinton staffers campaigned against him behind the scenes, and while Bernie was running away with the primary initially, the party actively debated changing rules to prevent him from getting the nomination and were willing to split the party in two in order to do it. 

All of the other moderate candidates dropped out simultaneously and endorsed Biden while Bernie was winning the primary expressly to stop him from taking the nomination and all of their support flowed to Biden, while the press cheered them on. The fix against him has already been established. 

And again, had Bernie gotten more votes he’d be the nominee.  Delegates are awarded proportionately.  Had more people supported him, he would have won.  Look at the states that voted first. It makes sense. People won’t jump off a bridge just because CNN tells them to. He never had commanding support from the majority and democratic voters.

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50 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

Created as much what? Jobs? Jeff Bezos has not created 1.75 million jobs by that matter.

Amazon employs roughly about 700K, of which around 150K work in warehouses earning on average 32K a year (which is really not a livable wage) with very middle-of-the-pack benefits. So he is sitting on billions of dollars in wealth while paying the very employees who do the heavy lifting the absolute minimum, while they keep his company running. It is not ethical. No matter how you run the numbers, it does not make sense. 

What is your solution then? Have the Government "appropriate" his wealth and company and then what?  Became the next Venezula?  Woudn't it be easier for someone that loves socialism to  move to Venezula or Cuba? 

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2 hours ago, DavieX said:

That was been tried in many countries it is called socialism.  You don't have the right to tell anyone what to do with their money if they acquire it the legal way.    Socialists don't want to make the poor less poor thier real objective is to make the rich less rich and that is all. 

Girl.... wtf kind of billionaire is getting that rich legally  

 

Open your eyes sis, I’m sorry. The entire system that gets people to that level of wealth is inherently corrupt and genocidal. People don’t call it for what it is because no one gives a **** if there’s a few success stories to uphold the discourse of the American Dream. 

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9 minutes ago, DavieX said:

What is your solution then? Have the Government "appropriate" his wealth and company and then what?  Became the next Venezula?  Woudn't it be easier for someone that loves socialism to  move to Venezula or Cuba? 

The whole Cuba/Venezuela thing is so tired. Venezuela became that way because of a corrupt system that was HIGHLY militarised, it was a ticking bomb from the start. There is no way for the US to ever become what Venezuela became. For starters, it was a colonised country that never flourished from a world war the way the US did.m, so it never got a fraction of the same resources to reach the same degree of economical prosperity as the US. 

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1 minute ago, HausOfAntonio said:

Girl.... wtf kind of billionaire is getting that rich legally  

 

Open your eyes sis, I’m sorry. The entire system that gets people to that level of wealth is inherently corrupt and genocidal. People don’t call it for what it is because no one gives a **** if there’s a few success stories to uphold the discourse of the American Dream. 

Instead of worring about who has what and how much people should worry about their own lives and the good and bad decisions the make.  All to these billioneires pay taxes and what the have and how much shouldn't be of anyone's buisness. 

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3 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

The whole Cuba/Venezuela thing is so tired. Venezuela became that way because of a corrupt system that was HIGHLY militarised, it was a ticking bomb from the start. There is no way for the US to ever become what Venezuela became. For starters, it was a colonised country that never flourished from a world war the way the US did.m, so it never got a fraction of the same resources to reach the same degree of economical prosperity as the US. 

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2 hours ago, DavieX said:

Why?  Cause they work hard for what they got? 

They *exploit* others to make that much wealth. 

Capitalism and wealth hoarding is all about exploitation. 

Many lives were ruined and many people make horrible wages for someone to be that rich. 

Bring out the guillotines. 

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1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said:

They *exploit* others to make that much wealth. 

Capitalism and wealth hoarding is all about exploitation. 

Many lives were ruined and many people make horrible wages for someone to be that rich. 

Bring out the guillotines. 

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Just now, DavieX said:

Actually from my iPhone created by slave labor in China which is a reason Apple is more valuable than some countries. 

Capitalism consumes our world and we have no choice but to contribute to the exploitation of others. 

I am fully aware, I as an American in the middle class live better than 80% of the world and for my lifestyle to exist millions around the world have to suffer and be exploited. 

But at least I recognize it and am actively looking for change domestically and with foreign policy. 

Thanks for proving the point. It’s not hypocrisy when you are basically FORCED to contribute to unethical wealth hoarding. 

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18 minutes ago, DavieX said:

The way your meme destroyed an entire philosophical doctrine that has been credited with significant progresses for humanity including but not limited to workers’ rights and universal healthcare 

 

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5 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

The way your meme destroyed an entire philosophical doctrine that has been credited with significant progresses for humanity including but not limited to workers’ rights and universal healthcare 

 

A philosophical doctrine that is yet to work  

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Just now, DavieX said:

A philosophical doctrine that is yet to work  

A philosophical doctrine doesn’t have to be fully implemented to generate considerable impact?! We don’t all run around wishing for the apocalypse yet its impossible to deny that nihilism as a philosophical doctrine had an impact, for example. 
 

Its simply short sighted to deny that Marxism hasn’t been vital for many of the most basic human rights we have been afforded. Its a way of thinking and seeing things, not an authoritarian regime. Those are different things. 

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@DavieX do you not know that Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, etc. exist? 

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5 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

@DavieX do you not know that Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, etc. exist? 

I do know they exist and I also know that they are not socialist.  They have even said it themselves.