Bernie Sanders proposes "Make Billionaires Pay Act"

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Just now, DavieX said:

Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, AND the Walton Family can buy 10 multi-million dollar homes, and still come out with more money, and wealth than we could ever imagine. They own over 90% of America's wealth, and that's not right. Also, what's giving us a one-time $1,200 check gonna do? You need to think outside your box.

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1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Well... is there any hope of it passing? Someone pls say yes 

Less than zero chance of passing. 

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12 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

Redistributing their excess wealth (especially when extreme wealth hoarding is damaging to an economic system) to cover out-of-pocket health expenses for people who cannot afford it, while in the middle of a pandemic, seems very reasonable.

And when their money is gone then what?  Who are you going to steal from to "redistribute" the wealth.  What incentive are going to give people that want to work hard for their money and not depend on the goverment for everything? 

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1 hour ago, MJHolland said:

I would love to see this, but it has a snowball’s chance in hell of getting past McConnell’s desk. But maybe they could push it next year with a blue senate IF WE ALL GET OUT AND VOTE IN NOVEMBER ;))) 
 

And honestly, I rather them focus on the next stimulus bill rn in the Senate. This bill pales in comparison to the 1-2 trillion we could be seeing this month. 

A blue senate would never pass this either.  We need term limits on Congress otherwise nothing will ever change because all they care about is getting re-elected

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1 hour ago, Curunir said:

Not only that, Bernie would've easily been able to convert Trump followers, especially in the context of corona.

Instead we get Biden talking about how black people are not diverse 

You have no idea what you’re talking about. I know moderates that would possibly vote for Biden, but would NEVER and I’ll say NEVER again vote for Bernie.  And I live in a swing state. 
 

also Bernie lost because he didn’t get enough votes in the primary AGAIN.  it wasn’t the media. It wasn’t the DNC.  it’s because he did not get enough votes from people. Thx. 

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7 minutes ago, EuphoricVibez said:

Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, AND the Walton Family can buy 10 multi-million dollar homes, and still come out with more money, and wealth than we could ever imagine. They own over 90% of America's wealth, and that's not right. Also, what's giving us a one-time $1,200 check gonna do? You need to think outside your box.

They own companies that employ millions of people. They worked hard for what they got and they believe it or not play 40% or more in taxes.  Whatelse do you want?   

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Just now, DavieX said:

And when their money is gone then what?  Who are you going to steal from to "redistribute" the wealth.  What are insentive are going to give people that want to work hard for their money and not depend on the goverment for everything? 

This is particularly about healthcare. The bill itself is about taxing the mega-rich (not millionaires, these people are billionaires--there is a very VERY big difference) to fund out-of-pocket health expenses for all Americans, which is a big issue in this country because healthcare is very expensive and most people are unable to afford proper care. Now, in the middle of a pandemic, this issue is even more pressing. I believe that every single person in the world deserves free access to healthcare and this bill is seeking to provide that, albeit temporarily, by redistributing excess wealth (read: wealth that is not needed) from a very small group of people who hoard extreme amounts of money.

If you don't believe people deserve to live healthy lives regardless of how much money they make, that's on you and your beliefs. 

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2 hours ago, Lemonky said:

I think this is generally a good idea, but why doesn't anyone talk about bad sides? They can go to other countries (progressive taxing in France made rich people go away), and they usually invest or spend their wealth in better ways than government could...

Good. They can go corrupt somebody else’s government. 

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3 minutes ago, Lanadelduck said:

also Bernie lost because he didn’t get enough votes in the primary AGAIN.  it wasn’t the media. It wasn’t the DNC.  it’s because he did not get enough votes from people. Thx. 

...He didn't get enough votes because the media and the DNC actively worked against him.

Older voters swung the election for Biden, and they voted for Biden because every liberal or neo-con commentator on every major cable news show (for whom the average viewer is 50-60+) spent the last five years presenting the notion of a Bernie Sanders candidacy as an electoral disaster and parroted the line that we needed a "moderate" to beat Trump. The DNC met years in advance specifically to come up with a strategy to prevent him from winning, former Clinton staffers campaigned against him behind the scenes, and while Bernie was running away with the primary initially, the party actively debated changing rules to prevent him from getting the nomination and were willing to split the party in two in order to do it. 

All of the other moderate candidates dropped out simultaneously and endorsed Biden while Bernie was winning the primary expressly to stop him from taking the nomination and all of their support flowed to Biden, while the press cheered them on. The fix against him has already been established. 

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1 hour ago, DavieX said:

A millionaire career politician has spoken!!   Hes slong would be somehing like   "Lets make America Venezuala again" 

 

Billionaires and Millionaires are not the same thing, and he got his wealth from selling books, but go off ig. Bernie’s saying Make America Scandinavian” and as he should. Realize Venezuela ranked in part thanks to US sanctions challenge <3

 

1 hour ago, DavieX said:

Why?  Cause they work hard for what they got? 

and no. Bernie is pro capitalist. A billionaire is just a policy failure. Punishing success looks like a maximum wage cap above the average salary. Not this. 

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10 minutes ago, Lanadelduck said:

You have no idea what you’re talking about. I know moderates that would possibly vote for Biden, but would NEVER and I’ll say NEVER again vote for Bernie.  And I live in a swing state. 
 

also Bernie lost because he didn’t get enough votes in the primary AGAIN.  it wasn’t the media. It wasn’t the DNC.  it’s because he did not get enough votes from people. Thx. 

Oh no, it’s someone who values anecdotes over opinion polls 

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People calling Bernie a commie and whatnot haven't lived under a communist government and it shows. Americans are brainwashed to kneel before the rich.

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9 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

This is particularly about healthcare. The bill itself is about taxing the mega-rich (not millionaires, these people are billionaires--there is a very VERY big difference) to fund out-of-pocket health expenses for all Americans, which is a big issue in this country because healthcare is very expensive and most people are unable to afford proper care. Now, in the middle of a pandemic, this issue is even more pressing. I believe that every single person in the world deserves free access to healthcare and this bill is seeking to provide that, albeit temporarily, by redistributing excess wealth (read: wealth that is not needed) from a very small group of people who hoard extreme amounts of money.

If you don't believe people deserve to live healthy lives regardless of how much money they make, that's on you and your beliefs. 

No I believe that if you work hard for your money and what you got you should not feel ashamed and buy as many houses, cars etc as you want.  Most of these people are creaters of work for so many other people.  We should be encouranging them to create more and not vilifying them. 

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4 minutes ago, DavieX said:

They own companies that employ millions of people. They worked hard for what they got and they believe it or not play 40% or more in taxes.  Whatelse do you want?   

I want to clear this "they worked hard" myth because it needs to be put in perspective. Let's compare a person like Jeff Bezos, whose net worth is over 170 billion, with the median (over 35) which is $97,000. How does it make sense for a person to work 1.75 million times harder than the average? Or, in other words, how does it make sense for a person to be worth roughly the same as 1.75 million people put together?

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3 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

I want to clear this "they worked hard" myth because it needs to be put in perspective. Let's compare a person like Jeff Bezos, whose net worth is over 170 billion, with the median (over 35) which is $97,000. How does it make sense for a person to work 1.75 million times harder than the average? Or, in other words, how does it make sense for a person to be worth roughly the same as 1.75 million people put together?

Myth?  Are you serious?  Of couse the average person is not worth as much but then again the average person hasn't created as much.  Why is that soo hard to understand?