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Scientists Say Lithium Should Be Added to Drinking Water to Prevent Suicide

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Because, in an era of rising suicide rates especially among young people, a new study from Brighton and Sussex Medical School (BSMS) published in the British Journal of Psychiatry has found a strong link between geographical areas with high levels of lithium in public drinking water and lower suicide rates.

In a press release from BSMS, the study’s lead author Professor Anjum Memon said: “It is promising that higher levels of trace lithium in drinking water may exert an anti-suicidal effect and have the potential to improve community mental health.”

Part funded by King’s College London, the study is a meta-analysis of three decades of research in Austria, Greece, Italy, Lithuania, UK, Japan and USA.

It concludes that lithium’s “protective” abilities could be further tested by “randomised community trials of lithium supplementation of the water supply” in communities with high prevalence of mental health conditions and risk of suicide.

Deliberately lacing the water supply with a mind-altering chemical in some zones might seem like something out of a science fiction novel, but the authors of the report – as other scientists have saidbefore them – think it’s an idea worth experimenting.

The report states: “These findings, which are consistent with the finding in clinical trials that lithium reduces suicide and related behaviours in people with a mood disorder, suggest that naturally occurring lithium in drinking water may have the potential to reduce the risk of suicide and may possibly help in mood stabilisation, particularly in populations with relatively high suicide rates and geographical areas with a greater range of lithium concentration in the drinking water.”

You cannot blame scientists for thinking outside the box on suicide prevention. Our mental health has been deteriorating over lockdown. Current figures show there are around 800,000 suicides a year. It is the second leading cause of death among 15 to 29 year olds globally. Unfortunately, the evidence shows that the isolation and economic stress caused by COVID-19 may well exacerbate this trend and lead to rise in suicides.

“In these unprecedented times of COVID-19 pandemic and the consequent increase in the incidence of mental health conditions, accessing ways to improve community mental health and reduce the incidence of anxiety, depression and suicide is ever more important,” said Prof Memon.

Scientists are not certain exactly how this naturally occurring silver-white, metallic element, found in soil, seawater and rocks and therefore vegetables, grains and water supplies, alters human mood. The suspicion is that it stimulates the growth of nerve cells.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/akzyeb/link-between-lithium-in-drinking-water-suicide-study?utm_content=1596634205&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook

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Dramatica

Hey look, in countries where there's high lithium in water there's low suicide, we should add lithium to drinking water

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PoetsTryinWrite

Christ almighty would mainstream “scientists” just **** off already. 

Defend Your Humanity.
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PoetsTryinWrite

How about address reasons why people are killing themselves? Oh that’s right, the economy would crash. Piss off. 

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KanyeWest

Im not a scientist but Im pretty sure u have higher chances to lower suicide rates if you build a community and allow free therapy/spa days. But again, the important thing is community. Because we live with this idea of individualism we lose this sense of community and shared moments together. I don't mean having a family and whatnot, but to be with a group of people and feeling loved, valued and that ur life means something because you help others or because u contribute to something you think/feel is of value. Because our world is so divided, and you always have to go thru things alone, you lose community, as human beings we need to be part of a squad. It's not easy to admit it sometimes but we cannot live alone and we certainly cannot struggle with mental health alone.

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Pennywise

What the **** :laughga:

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Meruk Holland
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28 minutes ago, Dramatica said:

Hey look, in countries where there's high lithium in water there's low suicide, we should add lithium to drinking water

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7 minutes ago, PoetsTryinWrite said:

Christ almighty would mainstream “scientists” just **** off already. 

Lithium is actually a common antidepressant used in medicine. It's not, like, psuedoscience or holistic.

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Rio
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Lithium is kind of a toxic or dangerous thing to use, sorry. It's normally used for mania and bipolar. Sorry, but depression is unrelated to those things, in actuality.

It doesn't sound like a good idea, and it's just another potentially toxic element to be added to water. Fluoride is toxic enough overtime - we don't need this too. We need better mental health funding and community programs. I mean, they don't even fully comprehend how lithium actually affects the body, and how it achieves some of its effects. That lack of research, to me, means if shouldn't be added in to something as vital as drinking water. It's hardly prescribed for depression.

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5 minutes ago, Meruk Holland said:

 

Lithium is actually an common antidepressant used in medicine. It's not, like, psuedoscience or holistic.

It's not common at all. It's common for manic episodes, bipolar and mania. As for depression, not too much. Maybe in severer forms. I work in a pharmacy and I don't think I've ever seen lithium prescribed for depression patients, unless they have mania or bipolar. 
 

Lithium does not need adding to water. It's just unnecessarily drugging the masses, meaning no one will have a choice or say - including people who don't have depression, and it could have various long-term effects on people. Just like fluoride (i.e a toxic element) can, in certain amounts. I don't drink tap water anymore now, but if they added lithium, there's no way I'm even letting my kids go near it. It's unnecessary. Depression does not need to be treated with drugs unless warranted - the root cause needs considering. Usually lifestyle and psychosocial factors. Enhanced community funding for mental health services is what's needed internationally - they need to push CBT more, better clinical prescribing practices for actual antidepressants, like SSRIs. Anyone who knows what lithium is knows that it is not a drug that is prescribed freely, lightly or commonly. There's reasons for that.

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5 minutes ago, Rio said:

It's not common at all. It's common for manic episodes, bipolar and mania. As for depression, not too much. Maybe in severer forms. I work in a pharmacy and I don't think I've ever seen lithium prescribed for depression patients, unless they have mania or bipolar. 
 

Lithium does not need adding to water. It's just unnecessarily drugging the masses, meaning no one will have a choice or say - including people who don't have depression, and it could have various long-term effects on people. Just like fluoride (i.e a toxic element) can, in certain amounts. I don't drink tap water anymore now, but if they added lithium, there's no way I'm even letting my kids go near it. It's unnecessary. Depression does not need to be treated with drugs unless warranted - the root cause needs considering. Usually lifestyle and psychosocial factors. Enhanced community funding for mental health services is what's needed internationally - they need to push CBT more, better clinical prescribing practices for actual antidepressants, like SSRIs. Anyone who knows what lithium is knows that it is not a drug that is prescribed freely, lightly or commonly. There's reasons for that.

The reason lithium isn’t more commonly used is that high levels can be dangerous. Low amounts aren’t dangerous, and apparently could be beneficial to many. Also lithium can be used as salvage therapy for depression, but honestly in that case it was probably misdiagnosed. Bipolar 2 is commonly misdiagnosed as MDD.

Considering the reasons lithium works aren’t fully understood, and lithium is generally referred to as a “mood stabilizer”, it’s not as wild an idea as you might think. Certainly adding a naturally occurring mineral is safer than most things.

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PunkTheFunk

The lithium will kill you before you can kill yourself

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26 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

The lithium will kill you before you can kill yourself

I mean the suicide rates would drop :bear:

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Let's not think about how many would die because of drinking water:vegas:

 

I'm probably wrong

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Meruk Holland
2 minutes ago, Rio said:

It's not common at all. It's common for manic episodes, bipolar and mania. As for depression, not too much. Maybe in severer forms. I work in a pharmacy and I don't think I've ever seen lithium prescribed for depression patients, unless they have mania or bipolar. 
 

Lithium does not need adding to water. It's just unnecessarily drugging the masses, meaning no one will have a choice or say - including people who don't have depression, and it could have various long-term effects on people. Just like fluoride (i.e a toxic element) can, in certain amounts. I don't drink tap water anymore now, but if they added lithium, there's no way I'm even letting my kids go near it. It's unnecessary. Depression does not need to be treated with drugs unless warranted - the root cause needs considering. Usually lifestyle and psychosocial factors. Enhanced community funding for mental health services is what's needed internationally - they need to push CBT more, better clinical prescribing practices for actual antidepressants, like SSRIs. Anyone who knows what lithium is knows that it is not a drug that is prescribed freely, lightly or commonly. There's reasons for that.

Well thank god we have your anecdotal evidence to prove that lithium isn't used for patients with unipolar depression. Grade A science. 

I never said lithium is, or should be, the first solution to suicidal thoughts. No, I don't think it should be added to all drinking water, and I do think its a substance that needs to be heavily monitored if prescribed. But there's no denying that research has shown that lithium is effective at reducing suicide rates amongst those with mood disorders, including but not limited to bipolar, unipolar mania, and unipolar depression. For that reason, I think it deserves to be studied further, especially in concert with (as opposed to replacing) SSRI's and SNRI's. For example, would trace amounts administered over long periods of time improve suicide rates, such as trace amounts in drinking water over a lifetime? We can't say for sure that it does, nor that it won't have side effects, but it communities where this is naturally occurring, such as described in the article, it does seem to indicate a link. It's science's job to determine if it's causation or just correlation. 

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