not a french fry 1,565 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, KanyeWest said: Who r these girls social experiment gone wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Sexxx said: Trixie: you don't have to be that talented a musician Katya: -Madonna I ****ing screamed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose P said: When someone says Madonna isn’t a talented musician (bc musician is more than being a vocalist) that’s when I know they don’t know her music. She's not a vocalist, she doesn’t play any instruments to a high level, her song writing isn't that spectacular... Madonna (as a whole artist) isn't that talented. She's great at being bold, fierce, has a "no fcks given" attitude, and being controversial. She's sold millions of records, and one of the biggest icons ever. But her vocals, even at peak, was always weak. She doesn't write all her music, she's not a producer, she plays the guitar but not amazingly well... Like, if you were to ask me to give examples on talented musicians, I'd say these artists: Whitney Houston (power house vocalist) Mariah Carey (power house vocalist) Lady Gaga (power house vocalist, excellent songwriter, producer, classically trained pianist/vocalist...) Beyonce (vocalist) ... and others. Madonna is not a talented musician, however, that does not take away from her being an icon and a boss ass bitch. She's average at best. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoj305 3,693 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 People like Gaga , Alicia keys , raised the bar in pop when it comes to being a musician. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hyperballad said: you’re always talkin bout Miss Ciccone.. if it wasn’t for Madge and her untalented ass, we wouldn’t have a Gaga Well, not entirely true End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,154 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose P said: I think she plays the guitar (I only know this because I’ve seen performances of her with guitar) but I don’t know how many she plays specifically. But what I meant is that she writes her own music, conceptualizes her albums, makes statements with her art, directs the creative process and sound of her albums, and puts on incredible shows and visuals, which is part of being a musician and artist. And then bitter OMH’s have the nerve to say she’s untalented. Puh-lease But that's not what they said... Trixie was saying pop stars usually do not have to be THAT talented or as talented as Gaga in musicianship. Of course all/most pop stars have musicianship but it's rarely close to gaga's level of vocals, playing multiple instruments, writing all her songs, making arrangements, conducting orchestra, etc. Madonna's artistry is more prominent than her musicianship, saying so doesn't make you an OMH chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, littlepotter said: But that's not what they said... Trixie was saying pop stars usually do not have to be THAT talented or as talented as Gaga in musicianship. Of course all/most pop stars have musicianship but it's rarely close to gaga's level of vocals, playing multiple instruments, writing all her songs, making arrangements, conducting orchestra, etc. Madonna's artistry is more prominent than her musicianship, saying so doesn't make you an OMH I know, I wasn’t talking about what Katya said, but rather responding to Craig who tends to go off discrediting Madonna’s artistry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,865 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose P said: I think she plays the guitar (I only know this because I’ve seen performances of her with guitar) but I don’t know how many she plays specifically. But what I meant is that she writes her own music, conceptualizes her albums, makes statements with her art, directs the creative process and sound of her albums, and puts on incredible shows and visuals, which is part of being a musician and artist. And then bitter OMH’s have the nerve to say she’s untalented. Puh-lease Madonna hasn't put that much effort into her work since the Confessions tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Dukttapetoo said: Madonna hasn't put that much effort into her work since the Confessions tour. Madame X begs to differ, but werk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,865 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jose P said: Madame X begs to differ, but werk Madame X is the realization that she shouldn't anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dukttapetoo said: Madame X is the realization that she shouldn't anymore Thankfully the critics disagree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Luke78619 said: Katya rightfully stans Replay, I remember her tweeting about it EDIT: found it, tasteful Queen Teas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jose P said: Thankfully the critics disagree Have you seen what the critics say about Gaga albums? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, Jose P said: I know, I wasn’t talking about what Katya said, but rather responding to Craig who tends to go off discrediting Madonna’s artistry. I never discredited her artistry. Art is art, and anyone can make art regardless of how talented they are. Art is also subjective, so it can be perceived in many different ways leading to people with different opinions about an art piece. I don't like Madonna's music, and you do. Cool. But what's a widely known fact is that Madonna has never been super-duper talented of a musician in the first place. That doesn't discredit her art or make her art any lesser than someone else's. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Doot said: Have you seen what the critics say about Gaga albums? Yes? As far as I know most of her albums have been very well received except for ARTPOP so I don’t get your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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