Jump to content
opinion

19/20 artists in top 20 of Billboard 200 are male (the female is Gaga)


Bradley

Featured Posts

Gerrard174
1 hour ago, RenegAde said:

It's considered "cool" for everyone to listen to men's music but it's uncool for  people (expecially men) to listen to female songs . Causing the popularity of female songs to dwindle in comparison to men .

Only a few females who are so dominant manage to break the stereotype 

And Adele is one of them

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 33
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Cody James
1 hour ago, RudraCNG said:

It' always "unfair" when it comes to women in music industry. People who listen to women use to be women or gay, and that reduces their audience. A lot of straight males still think that listening music from women = gay.

Such a double standard. In high school women would talk about how male musicians were hot and all that, so when I went through a Shania Twain phase I explained the double standard, but they still called it “gay”. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bradley
2 hours ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, Lady Gaga, Billie Eillish, Ariana Grande, Katy Perry and many more are charting really high these days.

And I don't think that's a problem that there's currently 19 males for 1 female artist in TOP20 of Billboard 200.

Katy Perry... charting high? Is it because Daisies hit top 40 for one week?

Ariana Grande doesn't have an album out. She's only charting with Stuck With U and Rain On Me, which are like two songs she's featured in.

Dua Lipa and Doja Cat on top of Gaga are like 3 female artists out of like thirty or forty male artists doing well.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bradley
Just now, Doot said:

:air:

The top 10 Bubbling Under hit single, Harleys in Hawaii, coming to snatch our weaves.

Link to post
Share on other sites

StrawberryBlond

If I counted correctly, there's just 41 females in those 200 entries. I didn't count albums from the same artist and that's also including females who were part of a male-based group, so if it was just counting solo females, it would be even less. It really is shocking. Undoubtedly, male music is held in a higher regard among critics, men are nervous to listen to female music as it's deemed gay to do so and women have always famously supported male music and don't always have time for their fellow females.

4 hours ago, NFRockwell said:

I see everyone throw this assumption around but is there actual proof to this? Most of my straight male friends listen to female artists, and there’s tons of male critics online who aren’t afraid to say they like female artists. Is that just a stereotype we pull up as an excuse? 

You can't base it just on your friends, though. The general consensus is that it's weird for men to listen to female artists, particularly if she's excessively girlie and is a gay icon, so that makes it weird for straight men to like Cher, Madonna, Kylie, Britney, Gaga, especially. Every man has his female guilty pleasures he listens to as in, he watches them on YouTube and maybe streams them but the question is, even if he listens to it, does he actually BUY their music? Because this topic is purely about chart representation. The difference between men and women when it comes to music-buying from the opposite sex is that women (not all, but many) will happily buy a man's music if he's hot even if it's not the best music but regardless of how hot a woman is, a man will not buy her music unless he thinks it's top quality. I've always believed that women make the best music. I strongly believe the world doesn't give it a chance because of sexism.

3 hours ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, Lady Gaga, Billie Eillish, Ariana Grande, Katy Perry and many more are charting really high these days.

And I don't think that's a problem that there's currently 19 males for 1 female artist in TOP20 of Billboard 200.

Their singles are, their albums, not so much or at least, not as well as their male peers. This topic is about album sales, not single sales. And how is it not a problem that only 1 artists in the top 20 is female? Women make up just over half of the world's population. Their absence on the charts is unacceptable.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Quartz
Just now, Quartz said:

Because women are trash :ohwell:

It's a joke obviously lol

Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊
Link to post
Share on other sites

MANiCURE 6
53 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Their singles are, their albums, not so much or at least, not as well as their male peers. This topic is about album sales, not single sales. And how is it not a problem that only 1 artists in the top 20 is female? Women make up just over half of the world's population. Their absence on the charts is unacceptable.

Okay but I'm not gonna buy a single / album just because it's a woman singing. You can't blame people if they prefer listening to male singer rather than female singer. So that's why it's not a real problem for me. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

MANiCURE 6
1 hour ago, Bradley said:

Katy Perry... charting high? Is it because Daisies hit top 40 for one week?

Ariana Grande doesn't have an album out. She's only charting with Stuck With U and Rain On Me, which are like two songs she's featured in.

Dua Lipa and Doja Cat on top of Gaga are like 3 female artists out of like thirty or forty male artists doing well.

Okay right maybe Katy isn't a good example right now.

Ari is charting high with Rain On Me, a female only song. That's good.

And again, you can't say it's a problem if there are not a lot of women on charts. Like... it's just people tastes...

It not because it's a woman singing. If the song is bad, it's bad even if it's a woman singing. If a good song doesn't chart, it's sad but not problematic, even if it's a woman singing.

At least for me, I don't care if it's a male or a female singer, as long as the song is good I'll buy it.

Link to post
Share on other sites

StrawberryBlond
8 minutes ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

Okay but I'm not gonna buy a single / album just because it's a woman singing. You can't blame people if they prefer listening to male singer rather than female singer. So that's why it's not a real problem for me. 

I'm not saying you have to buy their music because they're female. But it appears that most people aren't even giving them a chance in the first place because they're female. People tend to prefer male singers over females for sexist reasons, that's unquestionably an issue. Their claims of "women just sing about girlie stuff," "women don't sing about enough diverse topics" and "women don't take enough musical risks" really don't hold up when men use manly topics just as much in their music, stick to the same subject matter and stay with the same style their entire career. On the contrary, women are under pressure to constantly experiment and switch up their style or they'll be forgotten about. For example, Ariana had to change her lead single from Dangerous Woman and delay the album because it was deemed too much of Problem rip-off whereas countless men have ripped-off their last big hit to guarantee success and no one ever calls them out for it.

Link to post
Share on other sites

MANiCURE 6
18 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm not saying you have to buy their music because they're female. But it appears that most people aren't even giving them a chance in the first place because they're female. People tend to prefer male singers over females for sexist reasons, that's unquestionably an issue. Their claims of "women just sing about girlie stuff," "women don't sing about enough diverse topics" and "women don't take enough musical risks" really don't hold up when men use manly topics just as much in their music, stick to the same subject matter and stay with the same style their entire career. On the contrary, women are under pressure to constantly experiment and switch up their style or they'll be forgotten about. For example, Ariana had to change her lead single from Dangerous Woman and delay the album because it was deemed too much of Problem rip-off whereas countless men have ripped-off their last big hit to guarantee success and no one ever calls them out for it.

I agree with you on some points. 

But "Focus" by Ariana is like... one of the worst generic pop song ever :ladyhaha: I didn't knew it was supposed to be the lead single from Dangerous Woman but I'm glad she changed ! "Dangerous Woman" (song) is a masterpiece and one of the greatest song of all time. So you see... That's not about her as a woman, that's really about the song itself. And now she's one of the biggest singer in the world.

I'm practically sure that if "Focus" was a sang by a man it would have flopped even harder...

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Wet Fire

A lot of male singers/rappers just release mediocre songs, the GP favours mediocre songs by male artists. The women really suffer...I just don't get why :saladga:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bradley
1 hour ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

Okay but I'm not gonna buy a single / album just because it's a woman singing. You can't blame people if they prefer listening to male singer rather than female singer. So that's why it's not a real problem for me. 

:rip: You're missing the point.

It's called gender representation.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bradley
1 hour ago, MANiCURE 6 said:

Okay right maybe Katy isn't a good example right now.

Ari is charting high with Rain On Me, a female only song. That's good.

And again, you can't say it's a problem if there are not a lot of women on charts. Like... it's just people tastes...

It not because it's a woman singing. If the song is bad, it's bad even if it's a woman singing. If a good song doesn't chart, it's sad but not problematic, even if it's a woman singing.

At least for me, I don't care if it's a male or a female singer, as long as the song is good I'll buy it.

I think you do not understand that history has a tendency to under-represent women and there is a societal obligation to ensure representation across all sexes. Sexism has long been a global societal issue and the current musical climate is exhibiting that again. How is it 'not a problem' when it's showing symptoms of a disease we are already so familiar with? It is problematic.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


×
×
  • Create New...