*UPDATE* Glee Actress Naya Rivera Body Recovered

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1 hour ago, Daylight Jokers said:

Only Heather's talking about it unfortunately.

That honestly makes me even sadder... because they were BFFs in the show and I am projecting that into their personal life...

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17 hours ago, anonanon said:

It's worth mentioning that it is both not uncommon for good swimmers to be drowning victims and often not very noticeable when people are drowning. I can't imagine a 4-year-old would be able to differentiate.

I obviously have no more information than anyone else, but based on the information presented it seems likely to me that is was a very tragic accident and I wouldn't want to make the assumption that they didn't want to fight for their life. 

I knew someone who could swim and unfortunately drowned in a lake under very similar circumstance and I think to this day they are not sure exactly what happened. His family was present, but they did not realize what was going on until it was too late.  It seems unimaginable, but unfortunately can happen.

All I'm saying is that it doesn't quite line up with her son's story of her jumping into the water and not coming back up. It's like she drowned as soon as she hit the water despite being able to swim. That's the strange part. There is also a story that they were both in the water and she put him back on the boat but in which case, why didn't she follow after him? Why did she go back in the water herself without a life jacket? It's all very off, that's why we're asking questions.

16 hours ago, Midnightrush891 said:

I don’t agree with you. I also believe your statement is very inconsiderate! Why would you jump that conclusion, when it could very well be she was just swimming and didn’t know the strength of the waves and how cold the water was which would make her muscles stiff and make it harder to swim! 

I'm not trying to be inconsiderate, quite the opposite. When you've heard of so many stories of suicide, the scenario isn't as far-fetched, it's actually very common. Not everyone leaves a note either. I think the fact she went out with just her son on a boat was very strange. I would have taken at least one more adult with me to talk to and for extra safety. What were they planning to on a boat in the middle of a lake that they couldn't do in their back garden, on a park, on a beach? A boat presents safety risks and there's not even options for toilets or easy to get back quickly if one of you feels unwell, which are major things to consider when taking a child on a boat. I honestly can't think of a single reason why I'd take a 4 year old out on a boat, just the two of us. If you want a swim, you can do that in a much safer and warmer indoor pool. They clearly weren't fishing either. So if not for those two things or to sail to another location, what were they doing? Renting a boat for 3 hours, taking it out into the middle of a lake, have a bite to eat, splash in the water and then go back to shore? Seems a bizarre choice of activity. Taking into consideration the way she parked right outside the lines far away from the docks when there were plenty of spaces closer and left her wallet and purse in the car all points to her not being quite in her right mind either. The police will be examining all this stuff, this isn't disrespectful, it's gathering evidence. They have to look at everyhting, even the irrelevant stuff.

15 hours ago, Midnightrush891 said:

May I ask why? Because she dated someone who committed suicide? She had nothing to do with that mans demons! Because the life vest was on the boat? Well, let me tell you; my family has gone fishing every year to mammoth lakes and have rented boats. We all went swimming in the lakes without life vest, and none of us were trying to commit suicide. So what leads you to believe she wanted to kill herself in front of her only son, which she has always posted about how much she loved him?

I never said that she had anything to do with Mark's issues but most women would feel guilty after dating such a man, especially now she's a mother herself. She probably still carries a lot of guilt for even being with him and wonders if she could have found out quicker if it would have stopped him committing more crime. That kind of thing can traumatise someone and it's very hard to get over. She went through a divorce just 2 years ago and was accused of domestic battery against him at one point as well. It sounds like she's probably got some issues to get through. And if she has self esteem issues and/or depression on top of that, it can make it all worse. And sometimes, there isn't a clear-cut cause for being suicidal. It's a myth that only people with undeniable bad lives are suicidal. We've seen by the number of multi millionaires who have done it that a high quality of life has no correlation to your mental state. And as for killing herself when her son is right there - I've said before that having a child doesn't stop you from feeling suicidal, you just find a way of doing it that ensures your child gets looked after when you're gone. It doesn't mean they don't love their child, their brain is in an addled state and forcing them to end it and they can't think about anything else. Plenty of suicidal parents have done it while they were home with their child. They usually do so knowing that their child is safe in their own home, especially if they're very young.

13 hours ago, frederiickx said:

Sorry but you're going WAY too far with the suicide thing. She was literally tweeting 2 days ago about her next book she was planning on writing, she was excited about the new season of her show Step Up and she loved her son so much. She probably knew how to swim and figured it was a lake so why bother with a life vest. She made sure her little boy had one on for his safety. I've known people who have drowned who would go in lakes and oceans without vests because they knew how to swim and unfortunately something happens and they ended up drowning. I don't believe we should be assuming suicide especially when there have been several deaths on that lake in the past and people have been complaining for years about that lake and the deaths and it being unsafe for whatever reason.

Suicidal people can live perfectly normal lives to the outside world right up until the day they kill themselves. They can even go as far as announcing future plans, so it's no indication. Sometimes, they present the world a happy version of themselves right before they end it so that their loved ones will remember them not as depressed but as happy. I know, it's really sad but it's extremely common. That's why I think her last few posts about tomorrow not being promised and a picture of her and her son the day before speaks volumes.

7 hours ago, ydnmnme said:

I can’t get it out of my mind, I keep reading news and twitter and I found a really creepy thing.

 

Exactly what I thought of as soon as I saw that caption. Because of that song, "just the two of us" never sounds the same again, it just sounds creepy and chilling. But I really think it's best not to bring up the similarities because it's highly unlikely her caption was any reference to it. Just a very sad coincidence. We shouldn't be discussing pop culture conspiracy theories over something so serious. This is when it gets insensitive and disrespectful.

5 hours ago, Chromatography said:

if you can’t see how it’s disrespectful to her (without proof, all people have is she parked weird?) to say that she committed suicide in front of her child, had him swim back to the boat by himself (there is a quote of him saying he was swimming back but she wasn’t following), and had him by himself in a boat at FOUR years old, then i’m sorry something is wrong with you. you’re assuming she left her child in a horrible position where he could’ve died himself about someone who could and probably is very well dead and can’t defend themselves from a pretty damning accusation. people should wait to say such things until there is a reason to say them. so yes, it’s disrespectful.

It's not disrespectful, we're just trying to get to the truth by presenting more than one possible theory. The police are doing that right now. Just because it's an uncomfortable theory doesn't mean it's not true. The reason why we bring it up is because it's not unlike other parental suicide cases. If it turns out we were wrong, of course we'll accept whatever the truth is. But it's natural to think there's a lot of evidence that this was more than a simple boating trip. No one's saying that having mental issues made her a bad mother. It's the brain that's at fault and she wouldn't have done this stuff if she'd been in a healthy state of mind. If indeed it was suicide, of course.

[Sarah H 3,541]

^ I don't really think it was a bizarre choice of activity. She was known to have taken the boat out on this lake many times apparently. 

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

Can we all just let the proper authorities figure this out? We ain't sh*t, guys. 

[Blade 5,603]

17 minutes ago, ShayCristoforo said:

Can we all just let the proper authorities figure this out? We ain't sh*t, guys. 

people talking about news doesn't cancel out proper authorities doing their job

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3 minutes ago, Blade said:

people talking about news doesn't cancel out proper authorities doing their job

Of course. I'm just noticing a lot of weird theorizing and arguing lol 

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You may not be aware of it, but it's actually not that uncommon for someone to jump into water and just not resurface. It happens all the time. It actually happened during my shift as a park ranger just last year at a lake I was working at. That's how I researched and learned how very common it is. It's not suicide, it's not even a physical injury. It could be the shock of the water, the pressure change, the cold causing shock (probably what it was in the case at lake last summer, but we'll never really know.) Don't jump to conclusions and let the authorities do their job. I was so mad when rumors started swirling about the poor person who drowned during their jump at the park I was working at. It was terrifying for us as rangers, other visitors, needless to say his entire family he was with when he jumped off of the most popular jumping spot on the entire lake and just didn't come back up. Not everything is about conspiracies or something dramatic, it's as simple as: this happens all the time and you don't hear about it. It's an unfortunately normal tragedy. 

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2 hours ago, Haylan said:

You may not be aware of it, but it's actually not that uncommon for someone to jump into water and just not resurface. It happens all the time. It actually happened during my shift as a park ranger just last year at a lake I was working at. That's how I researched and learned how very common it is. It's not suicide, it's not even a physical injury. It could be the shock of the water, the pressure change, the cold causing shock (probably what it was in the case at lake last summer, but we'll never really know.) Don't jump to conclusions and let the authorities do their job. I was so mad when rumors started swirling about the poor person who drowned during their jump at the park I was working at. It was terrifying for us as rangers, other visitors, needless to say his entire family he was with when he jumped off of the most popular jumping spot on the entire lake and just didn't come back up. Not everything is about conspiracies or something dramatic, it's as simple as: this happens all the time and you don't hear about it. It's an unfortunately normal tragedy. 

I DO agree, But I would not call it "an unfortunately NORMAL tragedy". It's never NORMAL. BUT I am 100% pour cents with you, it's a ****ing tragedy. No matter who is the Human dying. 

Thanks for your comment!! 

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19 minutes ago, KindHML said:

I DO agree, But I would not call it "an unfortunately NORMAL tragedy". It's never NORMAL. BUT I am 100% pour cents with you, it's a ****ing tragedy. No matter who is the Human dying. 

Thanks for your comment!! 

Correct, I should have used the word "common" instead, that would better communicate what I was saying. : )

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@StrawberryBlond

she could’ve hit her head or been sucked under by a whirlpool. you’re also taking an account of a four year old that she immediately didn’t come up to be true. that’s all 

[Eido 3,663]

So apparently they didn't check the shores, only the lake. And they will empty the lake in a month  What is wrong with them? 

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13 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Suicidal people can live perfectly normal lives to the outside world right up until the day they kill themselves. They can even go as far as announcing future plans, so it's no indication.

That's actually very true. As someone who myself went thru that, Ive never showed any signs, on the contrary sometimes I looked quite "happy" or looking forward to do something. It's not that black and white, people who commit suicide are not always the stereotypical "depressed" person on the outside, u can never tell actually, that's why u gotta be careful how u talk to people. 

Not gonna jump into conclusions since there r not enough evidence to prove this theory but it's a theory nonetheless

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24 minutes ago, Eido said:

So apparently they didn't check the shores, only the lake. And they will empty the lake in a month  What is wrong with them? 

What makes you think they didn't check the shores? And you can't just empty a lake that size 

[Eido 3,663]

1 hour ago, Sarah H said:

What makes you think they didn't check the shores? And you can't just empty a lake that size 

The police said they were focusing on the lake as the last time her son saw her it was in the lake

Also I know a reservoir lake is not easy to empty uhuh 

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Hey y'all, any news about Naya?