Why do people call Gaga a fad/flop?

[raragaga 8,119]

who?

[Guest]

Idk she’s been around for 10 years & stays at the top of the charts which is the opposite of a fad 

[LORD GAGA 1,271]

Nobody with an ounce of integrity calls her that except select pressed Twitter Madge fans or Beyoncé fans mainly because they don’t have anything else to talk about. 

[ImTired 3,955]

Someone so outside the box/norm is bound to ruffle the feathers of people who don't understand it, get it, vibe it, whatever. What people forget is that even during her imperial phase, some people just flat out hated her and denied her for whatever reason.  Just don't let it get to you and enjoy the music!

[AvatarOfficial 358]

Cause there faves ain’t on her level. 

[LilyLark 10,091]

On 7/4/2020 at 5:38 PM, Heracross said:

I hope I’m not breaking any rules or make anyone upset. But I constantly see people trying to downgrade and discredit Gaga’s success, and they’re always making her seem like a flop. If she’s such a flop/fad then why are they so threatened? I only ever see Gaga being hated on in this way and I genuinely don’t understand. If she isn’t a threat then why do they always act threatened? Gaga’s so nice and loving and they seem to hate that..

1) Gaga's always been polarizing and was even more so early on in her career, so people who feel strongly about celebs tend to love or hate her. There are other examples when it comes to public figures like Jennifer Lawrence, etc. It's part of the reason she was ripped apart by the R Kelly debacle, more than some of his past collaborators, even though there are people who worked with him far more and at a later date.

2) Stan twitter, or anti-stan twitter, has to be dramatic about everything...so they characterize everything as a "flop" or "smash hit." Also, stan twitter doesn't like to acknowledge that music sales have just decreased in general (Taylor Swift is selling 200-400k less than her commercial peak) and pop is not v. popular nowadays.

3) The BTW Amazon deal back in the day didn't help either—it set unrealistic expectations for Gaga's future sales.

4) The worst of the little monsters on social media do not help. It's unfair, but celebrities often get blamed, associated, or even "subconsciously" sort of associated with social media bullies. There was even an op-ed several years ago, before Bey was kind of seen as untouchable aside from the right wing press, where a person mentioned the Beyhive tempered their appreciation of Beyonce. At least in the US, the general public isn't even that engaged on twitter (I think less than 10% of the population last I read)....but if you are on twitter you are more attuned to "twitter" things (like snarky comments about Gaga) so the dislike may seem more widespread.

5) The Madonna thing. Lots of monsters like to downplay how hugely influential she was back in the day (and still is kind of) or that Gaga was equally at fault for that mess (which I think was a PR stunt that got out of control). She was one of a handful of major stars who embraced the LGBTQ community during the AIDS crises, etc. so a  lot of people have general respect for her even if they don't care for her music or her in general..and Gaga came off as kind of a disrespectful, brash, and obnoxious kid to her.

However...at the end of the day, most people don't really care one way or the other about artists. They just watch the movies or listen to music, or they don't.

[PoetsTryinWrite 1,262]

Because she’s a woman. 

[Massive Monster 5,003]

On 7/5/2020 at 1:42 AM, Chromatican said:

It became OGH’s go-to insult after ARTPOP and stuck. Gaga has had decent longevity but her peak was so massive that everything after it feels smaller in comparison. 

Actually it happened during the Born This Way era. It was because she was constantly slaying, not because of "less successful" material. And I'm sure it developed earlier/ when the Madonna comparisons started. 

The bigger the star, the bigger the target.

She even sarcastically referenced people calling her a "flop" on stage during the BTWB saying stuff like "there's 50,000 people in this stadium, my album is a flop " 

 

[Red Velvet 10,988]

On 7/5/2020 at 8:41 AM, Quartz said:

Because she is, duh! She hasn´t had a hit since Poker Face. Deal with it

tangina naman nitong bata na toh.

[OMF 3,442]

Don’t know who you hang around with but I’ve not heard anyone say that about Gaga at least not in recent memory

[Gracious Gaga 17,163]

On 7/4/2020 at 8:42 PM, Suuus said:

Rain on me and shallow say hi

 

On 7/4/2020 at 8:48 PM, dynamite said:

Just those two since Poker Face 

I think it’s too early to even call rain on me a hit.  Yes it debuted #1 but it was very front loaded and it is falling now.  I don’t think it’ll sustain the way poker face bad romance and swallow did

[Daylight Jokers 14,958]

Only stan twitter and a couple of trolls here say that.

[Whispering 18,865]

I never see anyone say these things about Gaga, except for a few trolls on this site. No one in the real world labels Gaga as a “fad”.

[Dramatica 13,690]

3 hours ago, PoetsTryinWrite said:

Because she’s a woman. 

 

[Skabi 3,096]

On 7/5/2020 at 3:42 AM, Suuus said:

Flop on me and floplow say hi

fixed it   she is OVER!

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i mean she did have one or two hits after poker face... love game, paparazzi, bad romance, telephone, alejandro, born this way, judas, edge of glory, applause and million reasons as well