derpmonster 22,412 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, COOOK said: So if you’ve permanently deleted your twitter account or Facebook profile a few years ago, it’s somehow still there, in “code” mode? Not necessarily. I believe Facebook now allows data to be permanently deleted from their servers but public data can still be cached elsewhere. This is why when people are becoming famous, many of them hire trained professionals to scrub the internet of all possibly problematic content they may have. This includes deleting the original content as well as finding all cached copies and asking the caching service to delete them. And if they don't, threaten them with legal action. It's a whole mess Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNJ 4,317 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, derpmonster said: 18 minutes ago, KNJ said: @derpmonster do you listen to a podcast called Reply All? https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/posts/getting-started I do not, I'll check it out Yeah the tag is that they investigate the internet's questions and it's a trip. The problems are one thing, but it's the rabbit holes they fall down getting to the answers that are wild. Start with SnapChat Thief. I'm pretty sure this is the one with a resource guide to erase your identity from the internet. Even if it's not, this is a Top 5 all-time episode "I'm just gonna shake my lettuce" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,998 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said: That’s not something to be proud of luv. If people smart enough to reverse engineer an app are concerned, why shouldn’t we? It’s not nice to hear the clock app is doing it way more aggressively than the others is not cute when it’s not as deep as the other apps... 37 minutes ago, KNJ said: The attitude of people in denial about the truly malicious things people want your data for is...yikes 😬 My point isn't that people should be absolutely okay with everything these companies are doing. My point is that it happens. It's that Tik Tok isn't the only company collecting crazy amounts of information. Best practice is to not put anything online you're not okay with someone getting to. Or even interact with your phone/computer doing things you don't want others to know. Yes I know they can get to things stored offline. But I feel like that's always been something we've known and should be prepared for the worst. @KNJ not sure if you quoting me was siding with me or trying to say I'm in denial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 16,202 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Not to mention it’s owned by a Chinese company, meaning that their government (communist) can get any info from the app they want at any given moment British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reject False Icons 4,982 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Well after the USA gov that collects so many info from fb Twitter insta, etc why would I want to share more info to other countries 18 minutes ago, TEANUS said: Not to mention it’s owned by a Chinese company, meaning that their government (communist) can get any info from the app they want at any given moment you are not so far from reality but your tone was super alarmist. Bytedance is the owner and has been in much controversies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Jax 646 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, KNJ said: The attitude of people in denial about the truly malicious things people want your data for is...yikes 😬 Yep. Im not gonna go into how I know what I know cos ppl will be like "does ur mom also work at netflix" but people on this site are EXTREMELY naive. There are lots of psychopaths out there and many are in positions of power, and/or hackers etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 16,202 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Reject False Icons said: Well after the USA gov that collects so many info from fb Twitter insta, etc why would I want to share more info to other countries you are not so far from reality but your tone was super alarmist. Bytedance is the owner and has been in much controversies If it’s reality then how shouldn’t it be alarming if it’s the truth British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Isnt tiktok controlled by a Chinese company?why are you all so surprised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,758 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I thought this was news long ago? She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 18 hours ago, KanyeWest said: Twitter exposed as a DramaQueen cus it's what they are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2020 the year of exposures and cancellations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNJ 4,317 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 hours ago, justhislife said: My point isn't that people should be absolutely okay with everything these companies are doing. My point is that it happens. It's that Tik Tok isn't the only company collecting crazy amounts of information. Best practice is to not put anything online you're not okay with someone getting to. Or even interact with your phone/computer doing things you don't want others to know. Yes I know they can get to things stored offline. But I feel like that's always been something we've known and should be prepared for the worst. @KNJ not sure if you quoting me was siding with me or trying to say I'm in denial. In denial. First: Your first sentence tells me that you've completely bought in to believing that what you leave behind has no value and can not be used to do irrevocable harm to you or society. Or you're part of a company that would love for people to think that. Second: This doesn't just happen. There are people/companies/governments who seem to do nothing but try to figure out ways to steal data. Data=money=power Third: How can you prepare for the worst when you cannot even fathom it? You can think you have the best security software and use a trusted site until, inevitably, it gets hacked. Someone always cracks the code. Always. You think Gagas lawyers thought they'd get got? The Pentagon? You think there's no correlation between the terabytes of data from Faceapp, Muglife, Tiktok, Alexa etc etc etc and the growing sophistication of deepfakes? For years we took those stupid little quizzes on Facebook only to find out they were creating psychological profiles used to microtarget and passively brainwash our perceptions of reality. But I should absolutely be ok with letting a company not bound by my country's laws, to track my location, access all my media, my contacts, and my camera, leave trackers and third-party cookies and trust they'll remove all of that when I uninstall...just to see what I look like when I'm 100 yrs old? I said it before Everyone should listen to Snapchat Thief (and Reply All in general) https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/posts/getting-started "I'm just gonna shake my lettuce" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 18 hours ago, GipJo said: China conspiracy again If you believe that you should delete your Grindr account because it's a China app. Actually, the United States foreign investment bureau said that Grindr being owned by the Chinese was a national security threat. They issued and ultimatum and now Grindr is owned by private Americans again, as of last month. TikTok is definitely sketchy AF. From banning Black Lives Matter and free Hong Kong posts, to only promoting “attractive” creators on the For You page, and to these countless security risks, I deleted the app off my phone. Not the kind of people I want to support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,998 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 7 hours ago, KNJ said: In denial. First: Your first sentence tells me that you've completely bought in to believing that what you leave behind has no value and can not be used to do irrevocable harm to you or society. Or you're part of a company that would love for people to think that. Second: This doesn't just happen. There are people/companies/governments who seem to do nothing but try to figure out ways to steal data. Data=money=power Third: How can you prepare for the worst when you cannot even fathom it? You can think you have the best security software and use a trusted site until, inevitably, it gets hacked. Someone always cracks the code. Always. You think Gagas lawyers thought they'd get got? The Pentagon? You think there's no correlation between the terabytes of data from Faceapp, Muglife, Tiktok, Alexa etc etc etc and the growing sophistication of deepfakes? For years we took those stupid little quizzes on Facebook only to find out they were creating psychological profiles used to microtarget and passively brainwash our perceptions of reality. But I should absolutely be ok with letting a company not bound by my country's laws, to track my location, access all my media, my contacts, and my camera, leave trackers and third-party cookies and trust they'll remove all of that when I uninstall...just to see what I look like when I'm 100 yrs old? I said it before Everyone should listen to Snapchat Thief (and Reply All in general) https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/posts/getting-started It doesn't matter what companies/governments get from me lol. I don't secretly communicate with anybody. I don't have a whole lot of assets. Where I live is essentially public record. I don't go anywhere I'd deem private. If they want to see me naked then oh well, I'm sure my nudes are out there somewhere anyways. Somebody so determined to physically harm me that they would seek out patterns of behavior would find other ways to get to me anyways. If you can think of other malicious ways my information can be used I want to hear it. Other than Gaga's SSN being exposed, I'm not sure anything bad was found in the documents. You could argue her contract got out, but for all we know she wanted that put out there. And it could help her with a future bidding war. Nothing after 2017 was leaked as far as I saw so her current figures haven't been revealed. I never took the quizzes on Facebook, although I get what you're saying. I never said you should be okay with it. I said you should be aware it's happening. Do with that information what you will. I personally don't do anything too sensitive over the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werk 13,166 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 5:24 PM, ifuseekdim said: On 7/1/2020 at 5:29 PM, Azor Ahai said: All social media and most phone apps track you and take all your data and sell it to ad companies ANYWAY. Why should I care about this ? On 7/1/2020 at 5:29 PM, RenegAde said: Using twitter (a supposed malware ) to warn people to stop using another malware .... we love to see it On 7/1/2020 at 5:30 PM, StarstruckIllusion said: They steal and collect your data so they can advertise, discriminate, and collect your data so the govt. can cancel you if they wanted, with all your deepest darkest secrets. Look into “Big Data” online... it’s not cute. On 7/1/2020 at 5:33 PM, Dramatica said: Again, US gov has your data too. So why are we getting alarmed when it's China? On 7/1/2020 at 5:50 PM, StarstruckIllusion said: Who said I like that the US gov has it? Idk what they’d do, but why doesn’t it concern you that a government that literally censors media is doing it? That can’t be good... Chile idk... cry? Imagine cancel culture but it’s your private texts, search history, and other things that seem fine now but suddenly won’t be in 10 years. The mess... On 7/1/2020 at 5:55 PM, StarstruckIllusion said: That’s not something to be proud of luv. If people smart enough to reverse engineer an app are concerned, why shouldn’t we? It’s not nice to hear the clock app is doing it way more aggressively than the others is not cute when it’s not as deep as the other apps... On 7/1/2020 at 6:25 PM, KNJ said: The attitude of people in denial about the truly malicious things people want your data for is...yikes 😬 On 7/2/2020 at 4:48 AM, Florin said: Isnt tiktok controlled by a Chinese company?why are you all so surprised? On 7/2/2020 at 11:53 AM, KNJ said: In denial. First: Your first sentence tells me that you've completely bought in to believing that what you leave behind has no value and can not be used to do irrevocable harm to you or society. Or you're part of a company that would love for people to think that. Second: This doesn't just happen. There are people/companies/governments who seem to do nothing but try to figure out ways to steal data. Data=money=power Third: How can you prepare for the worst when you cannot even fathom it? You can think you have the best security software and use a trusted site until, inevitably, it gets hacked. Someone always cracks the code. Always. You think Gagas lawyers thought they'd get got? The Pentagon? You think there's no correlation between the terabytes of data from Faceapp, Muglife, Tiktok, Alexa etc etc etc and the growing sophistication of deepfakes? For years we took those stupid little quizzes on Facebook only to find out they were creating psychological profiles used to microtarget and passively brainwash our perceptions of reality. But I should absolutely be ok with letting a company not bound by my country's laws, to track my location, access all my media, my contacts, and my camera, leave trackers and third-party cookies and trust they'll remove all of that when I uninstall...just to see what I look like when I'm 100 yrs old? I said it before Everyone should listen to Snapchat Thief (and Reply All in general) https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/posts/getting-started Well goddamn if y'all don't care then don't click on the thread. Yes sweeties we know that the other parts of the internet and apps ain't any better but we're just deservingly exposing the stank ass app that is TikTok jesus if we can hae "Is it a skip?" threads then we can have this one too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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