Ansel Elgort exposed

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1 minute ago, RZLNL said:

A just bad sexual relationship does not leave you with anxiety, panic attacks and PTSD.

It definitely can, specially if she was obsessed with him and he only wanted sex. I've had my life almost ruined just last year (I was 28! and with plenty sexual experience) because I got accidentally obsessed with a guy that didn't want anything more than sex. It messed my mind up, and even today I react to other possible relationships in a different way because of it.

I'm not saying she can't feel the way she does because to every story there's at least 2 perspectives, and she might have felt raped. But this to me really sounds like a bad first sexual experience. She put him on a pedestal, and he was just another average guy in the end, not meeting her expectations of what sex would be like, specially with him, being perfect in her head and all that.

What he said during it is creepy, but I guess most guys will try to have "sexy" dirty talk like that when having sex (which personally turns me off so much). It doesn't help his case for sure.

There's also this idea she's trying to portray that he is a child molester, as if you would magically turn into a completely responsible and level-headed adult in 2-3 years. There's this idea that a magical switch turns on in your head/body at 16, 18 or 21 for adult matters but that just isn't accurate or real at all.

 

So yes, she probably felt used and had a really bad sexual experience with him, which triggered all those mental health issues for her. I hope she can finally heal, as she says this is her way to do it. However, I do not think it is something that grants him being hated for by the world, unless he still acts this way after being called out for it.

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30 minutes ago, thatfoxyfeeling said:

How disappointing, hope this is closure for her. If more comes to the surface it's gonna affect West Side Story. I just seriously hope this isn't false after what just happened with Michael Clifford.

Have you read this whole thread yet? What do you think of it?

 

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This isn’t rape! Most states the age of consent is 17! On top of that, there is 3 years separating them and states don’t recognize that as pedophilia. 

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15 minutes ago, RZLNL said:

A just bad sexual relationship does not leave you with anxiety, panic attacks and PTSD.

 

13 minutes ago, FentyGa said:

1.the age of consent in the US is 18, as far as i’m aware. not consent.

2.rape can take many forms, and forceful language/intimidation/positions of power being used as leverage (such as anel’s in this case) absolutely lead to rape. putting pressure on someone is not consent.

3.she was sobbing and in pain, and he did jack ****

The age of consent varies across the U.S.  but in California it is 18 with no Romeo and Juliet laws. So if it occured in California it would be statutory rape. Her profile indicates she's in NY (though it's not clear if that's where she was at the time) and their age of consent is 17, at which point it wouldn't be statutory rape. She doesn't say anything about how the sex initiated, only what happened during. She also never seemed to verbally take away consent. Though he should be more aware and have been considerate, I don't believe it's sexual assault. If he mentioned threesomes and nudes before they met, that should be a indication of what might happen when they met. It doesn't automatically give him consent, but it's not like she's completely unaware of what's gonna happen. And if he was asking for nudes and a threesome after their encounter, it makes me question why she still engaged with him after that happened to her. 

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10 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

I guess we now know why he never get so much job or reaching that bonafide level in Hollywood.

Are you serious? Because Hollywood is pretty much built on abuse and sexual misconduct. Open secret.

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I came here thinking his nudes leaked or something

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6 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said:

This is really cold and callous.  

She has PTSD from this experience. 

That's my take from her post..

It's certainly a HORRIBLE Experience tho.. but i dont think twas a rape

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31 minutes ago, FRANZGA said:

Ansel is big..

RECEIPTS PLEASE 

 

jk, in all seriousness I hope the truth comes out + justice is served if necessary 

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Sometimes it’s hard to express “no” in the heat of the moment and the younger you are, the harder it is. 

I wonder what happened between dm-ing him and then having sex, there seems to be a part missing.  

Either way, I hope she finds the healing she seeks.

Also, I don’t believe that last Instagram post. Who posted that? Why should we believe a random Instagram account saying “I was in school with so-and-so and they always said horrible things!”  

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The fact that he was 20, and she is repeatedly saying “I was 17” - this is a classic way for her to manipulate you, and she does it over and over again throughout her story. And it’s actually working for some of you. Even if her story was 100 percent true, it’s still just a case of a bad sexual experience for her. Nothing that happened during that should cause PTSD. Some of you immediately jump on the side of the girl, when what she could be doing is trying to ruin his career. There needs to be more information. I couldn’t believe some of the responses “you’re so brave” or “we’re 100 percent behind you.”- like how, how could you draw such conclusions off of one naive girl’s testimony?  

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48 minutes ago, justhislife said:

He wasn't in his 20s, he was 18 or 19. That doesn't excuse what happened because that's definitely not how to go about sex, but the way she is trying to frame this makes things a bit questionable...

 

44 minutes ago, FRANZGA said:

CONSENSUAL SEX

20yrs old and 17yrs old

She was a virgin and Ansel is big..

She didnt enjoy her first because twas too painful..

My VERDICT: Not a pedo, not a rape, Ansel is a-hole for not making sure his fan enjoyed her first

 

42 minutes ago, FRANZGA said:

Ansel was 20yrs old..

But yeah she's insisting "i was only 17 and he was in his 20s".. sounds like she's trying to make Ansel look like a pedo..

Also, i dont think that's a rape.. just a horrible first sex experience.. i want more details tho

I'm sorry, am I missing something here...? I don't understand why y'all are trying to make excuses...And frankly, all the people liking your posts are just as disturbing. 

Okay, even if she got his age wrong, that doesn't really change anything...She was still underage. She was naive and she didn't know what she was really getting herself into.

A bad or mediocre sexual experience doesn't result in you getting PTSD and having to go to therapy...I don't know how y'all are trying to make it sound like she's being manipulative. 

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36 minutes ago, FentyGa said:

1.the age of consent in the US is 18, as far as i’m aware. not consent.

2.rape can take many forms, and forceful language/intimidation/positions of power being used as leverage (such as anel’s in this case) absolutely lead to rape. putting pressure on someone is not consent.

3.she was sobbing and in pain, and he did jack ****

I think it's it can be under 18 tho if the age gap between the adult and minnor is under a certain amount of years

 

Or at least in most jurisdictions it is

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7 hours ago, NCgaga said:

The fact that he was 20, and she is repeatedly saying “I was 17” - this is a classic way for her to manipulate you, and she does it over and over again throughout her story. And it’s actually working for some of you. Even if her story was 100 percent true, it’s still just a case of a bad sexual experience for her. Nothing that happened during that should cause PTSD. Some of you immediately jump on the side of the girl, when what she could be doing is trying to ruin his career. There needs to be more information. I couldn’t believe some of the responses “you’re so brave” or “we’re 100 percent behind you.”- like how, how could you draw such conclusions off of one naive girl’s testimony?  

She repeated the phrase "I was 17" because that means she was underage  The fact that some of y'all can't see that is disturbing. If she was 12, you'd would be like, "she keeps repeating the phrase 'I was 12,' so she's manipulating you guys!"

And I'm sorry, but if what she said is 100% true, then it's not "just a case of a bad sexual experience." If it's true, then she was raped. Plain and simple. Having first-time bad sex doesn't result in you getting PTSD and having to go to therapy.

This is why more people don't come forward. It's because of rhetoric like this. False reports of sexual assault range from 2-10%. It's more likely than not that she's telling the truth. 

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8 minutes ago, NCgaga said:

The fact that he was 20, and she is repeatedly saying “I was 17” - this is a classic way for her to manipulate you, and she does it over and over again throughout her story. And it’s actually working for some of you. Even if her story was 100 percent true, it’s still just a case of a bad sexual experience for her. Nothing that happened during that should cause PTSD. Some of you immediately jump on the side of the girl, when what she could be doing is trying to ruin his career. There needs to be more information. I couldn’t believe some of the responses “you’re so brave” or “we’re 100 percent behind you.”- like how, how could you draw such conclusions off of one naive girl’s testimony?  

She's not manipulating anyone. 17 is young and she clearly wasn't ready for such an experience. 

It's up to you if you don't want to believe her story but you don't get to decide if this experience couldn't have caused PTSD. You weren't there. 

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The eay she keeps EMPHASIZING she was only 17....we got it....

My thing is if he was asking for nudes and THAT made you uncomfortable...why would you go so far as to somehow MEET him and then get in bed with him??? 

There's a lot of gaps to the story...