Genuine Guy 09 13,941 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gustavo said: I don't know if is true, but this accountĀ hit a lot on chromatica's and Madonna's last album / tour infoĀ That insider kinda said he was in a conference call with Bobby and lost any credibility ( )Ā they had. The reason he is saying that is because of this: All insiders copy that account or what's on here - but it came from that account firstĀ Stare at the Chartster in the mirror they talk to me too. #StreamFunTonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 It's a lack of common sense if you don't suspect something is fishy when a song that peaked at #59 in the US, #37 in the UK, #55 in Japan, and #47 in Germany (biggest music markets) has a video with almost 1 billion views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE1295 8,673 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said: can we go back to the no promo discussion which is way more interesting Even Iāll agree with this oneĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, LetsGetHighh said: It's a lack of common sense if you don't suspect something is fishy when a song that peaked at #59 in the US, #37 in the UK, #55 in Japan, and #47 in Germany (biggest music markets) has a video with almost 1 billion views. Maybe the Latin American countries hopped onto the song years after it flopped because they're the biggest markets for YT now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaou 39,013 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 With that being said. So is "Radio Deal" real? Cause there's no proven explanation for it either but we all know that it's a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, corvus albus said: Maybe the Latin American countries hopped onto the song years after it flopped because they're the biggest markets for YT now Argentina: OUT, Bolivia: OUT, Brazil: OUT, Chile: OUT, Colombia: OUT, Ecuador: #47, Paraguay: OUT, Peru: OUT,Ā Suriname: OUT,Ā Uruguay: OUT,Ā Venezuela: OUT. Guess not.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, corvus albus said: Maybe the Latin American countries hopped onto the song years after it flopped because they're the biggest markets for YT now hopped onto but also not too much such that it can chart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, LetsGetHighh said: It's a lack of common sense if you don't suspect something is fishy when a song that peaked at #59 in the US, #37 in the UK, #55 in Japan, and #47 in Germany (biggest music markets) has a video with almost 1 billion views. It's lack of common sense to assume that Katy's label is buying views for that 3-year-old video when her current lead single is struggling to crack 20M. Ā 9 minutes ago, La Rosalia said: Katyās team is most likely not paying for the views. In this specific case it really doesnāt make any sense. If they wanted, they would give those to Diseases. YouTube is a complicated platform to measure success. The biggest source of views areĀ suggested videosĀ andĀ playlistingĀ (when talking about playlisting most comes from the ādaily mixesā). That said, this platform is much more lean back (in where the users donāt necessarily choose what they want to view/listen). BA must have been added algorithmically to a āMixā or is being suggested after a popular (or a series of one) current videos. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, La Rosalia said: Katyās team is most likely not paying for the views. In this specific case it really doesnāt make any sense. If they wanted, they would give those to Diseases. Ā YouTube is a complicated platform to measure success. The biggest source of views areĀ suggested videosĀ andĀ playlistingĀ (when talking about playlisting most comes from the ādaily mixesā). Ā That said, this platform is much more lean back (in where the users donāt necessarily choose what they want to view/listen). BA must have been added algorithmically to a āMixā or is being suggested after a popular (or a series of one) current videos. I fully believe they didn't pay for Bon Appetit or Swish Swish's views. Both videos just went viral because people wanted to see Katy crash and burn (the dislike bars speak for themselves). And controversial videos with high dislikes are more likely to benefit from the YouTube algorithm, because it indicates that this video is something that a user should form their own opinion on, because it IS so controversial. However, I do believe there was some sort of doctoring for both Never Worn White & Never Really Over. If the Rolling Stone is writing a huge OP'ed about labels being able to manipulate charts by doing a $30,000 investment in YouTube ads, it is actually SILLY to assume that labels were not taking advantage of this. The difference between NRO and NWW is that NWW was released after the TrueView controversy with that one Indian artist breaking the YouTube record just by placing ads everywhere. Ever since that, ads don't count towards the view counter anymore and YouTube has become increasingly stricter with suspicious views and actually removing them (Katy losing 10M views after a few days, BTS losing 30M views on release day). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo 500 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Genuine Guy 09 said: That insider kinda said he was in a conference call with Bobby and lost any credibility ( )Ā they had. The reason he is saying that is because of this: All insiders copy that account or what's on here - but it came from that account firstĀ well, we will have to wait and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 KP's MVs were in some kind of Youtube residency.Ā Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Those twitter accounts always tweet something and delete their tweets when the things don't happen which is the case with gaga everytme since she's releasing nothing she has in stores Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Admin said: It's lack of common sense to assume that Katy's label is buying views for that 3-year-old video when her current lead single is struggling to crack 20M. It's a lack of common sense to assume that a video can only gain views when buying said views. Ad-supported views, playlisting, etcetera. No one wants to add Daisies' video anywhere cause it's just unappealing.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Name Isnt Alice 3,737 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, LetsGetHighh said: It's a lack of common sense if you don't suspect something is fishy when a song that peaked at #59 in the US, #37 in the UK, #55 in Japan, and #47 in Germany (biggest music markets) has a video with almost 1 billion views. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE BOOBS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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