coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, DiamondAngel said: Unpopular opinion: I reject the notion that social media has to be an outlet for your stance on world issues, even if you have a big platform, nor do I think not posting about them makes you “part of the problem.” Maybe I just joined twitter for the memes and Facebook for the recipes, Karen. Back off. you do realize that social media and people speaking up on it led to the protests that eventually led to some accountability right. if no one bothered posting those stories/videos demanding change we'd still be at square one, but thanks for the hot take... not posting about it makes you complicit with whats going on. you wouldn't stay quiet if it was your brother or sister getting choked to death so why should we as society stay quiet when thats the fate of innocent black people daily for the past 400 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 i honestly can't with some of the ignorance i have seen in this thread. clearly a lot of you are racist and/or have not been on the other end of systemic racism. YES EVERYONE HAS TO POST because otherwise you are complicit and comfortable with the status quo. if you can't comprehend that and want to give stupid explanations on why people should stay silent on human rights issues YOU NEED TO READ THE F*CKING ROOM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Democrats 2020 said: Clearly things aren't affecting him enough to speak out. White privilege Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,408 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, riotx said: My problem is people getting more angry with celebrities for not sharing a thing on their feeds that with politicians THIS. Thank you! Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, coolninjaguy said: i honestly can't with some of the ignorance i have seen in this thread. clearly a lot of you are racist and/or have not been on the other end of systemic racism. YES EVERYONE HAS TO POST because otherwise you are complicit and comfortable with the status quo. if you can't comprehend that and want to give stupid explanations on why people should stay silent on human rights issues YOU NEED TO READ THE F*CKING ROOM. Oh I guess everyone is complicit with economic inequality if they haven’t posted about world hunger or donated to hunger groups. I guess you’re ok with natives in the pacific islands getting their homes stripped away because you’ve never tweeted about it. I guess you’re comfortable with human trafficking because you’ve never mentioned it on here. I hope you also agree that your silence on these issues makes you guilty of supporting racism, sexism, and inequality in general. Or is this not the case? Maybe you believe issues are only important to speak upon when they’re trending? Or when it directly affects you? What’s your excuse to the Maori people (KJ Apa’s father is Maori) for your silence and lack of support on their issues? Are you racist? Have you ever been on the other end of systemic racism? Where are your supportive tweets for the civil war my family in the ME is fighting? Should I too be angry that Lady Gaga or KJ Apa or any celebrity has never once spoken about them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,080 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, coolninjaguy said: i honestly can't with some of the ignorance i have seen in this thread. clearly a lot of you are racist and/or have not been on the other end of systemic racism. YES EVERYONE HAS TO POST because otherwise you are complicit and comfortable with the status quo. if you can't comprehend that and want to give stupid explanations on why people should stay silent on human rights issues YOU NEED TO READ THE F*CKING ROOM. I bet you feel really good after posting that, don't you? Co-opting black anger and then chastising people for not doing enough must make your ego swell! I'm sure all the victims of systemic racism are applauding you from beyond the grave for bravely tearing down KJ Apa and the people not criticizing him enough for his "silence" on a Lady Gaga fan forum - your contributions to BLM are absolutely noted and your plaque for Ally Of The Year is on it's way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I personally haven't been too vocal on social media because it often does come across as performative, so I do understand. In my real life that's not the case, so you can't really judge based on how people come across online. Thats one of the problems with social media, and it is a total double edged sword. Its work-oriented exposure thats totally necessary, but then people will also hold you to different standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, coolninjaguy said: you do realize that social media and people speaking up on it led to the protests that eventually led to some accountability right. if no one bothered posting those stories/videos demanding change we'd still be at square one, but thanks for the hot take... not posting about it makes you complicit with whats going on. you wouldn't stay quiet if it was your brother or sister getting choked to death so why should we as society stay quiet when thats the fate of innocent black people daily for the past 400 years? But how then would you navigate people who just do not have a tendency to go on social media at all, are just generally disconnected with it and do not have a big digital reach, and have not been vocal online, but then are helpful in real life? I don't know if social media should be held to such high standards in relation to activism, especially because that perpetrates a mentality of "passive insta activism" or whatever one wants to call it that oftentimes is just counterproductive or innefectual. People cannot be satisfied with merely being a presence online and have that be enough to rid them of the need or desire to be activists. I'm not disagreeing with you at all btw, I just genuinely want other's views and opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillynate 6,170 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 We have to accept that not everyone is going to try to move mountains the way Gaga tries. Me personally I think it’s very superficial/shallow to post a black screen and a hashtag. Like what exactly is that gonna do? I know there’s a whole bunch of Instagram models who are doing that just to save themselves and look good. Also let’s not forget that thread from the other day bashing celebrities for showing support. There is more that people can do, but let’s not forget there’s a pandemic which is getting worse. So to some people there really is nothing to do. Factors are different this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RenegAde said: He doesn't need to say anything if he doesn't want to Personally, I'm getting tired of seeing all these public figures and their hot takes . Its not helping anyone that your fav posted about BLM Speaking out against hate is not a hot take we're literally Gaga stans cbwwkdxnqfb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, CameltoeKween said: I bet you feel really good after posting that, don't you? Co-opting black anger and then chastising people for not doing enough must make your ego swell! I'm sure all the victims of systemic racism are applauding you from beyond the grave for bravely tearing down KJ Apa and the people not criticizing him enough for his "silence" on a Lady Gaga fan forum - your contributions to BLM are absolutely noted and your plaque for Ally Of The Year is on it's way! LOL you literally just wrote up a bunch of mumbo jumbo thats not even coherent and missed the point. "all the victims of systemic racism" - i'm literally a POC and have experienced systemic racism but I wouldn't put it past some of the white twinks on this forum to understand that. someone with kj apa's platform shouldn't be staying silent when his co-star, vanessa morgan, has stated several times that white people need to speak up for black people and be allys online. also why can I not make a comment on his stance in a thread in the "Lady Gaga fan forum" that was specifically on that topic ? and that's not really a contribution to BLM but it is speaking up on issues that actually matter while y'all come here to cry about the sour candy mv not getting released or some other dumb sh*t like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, HausOfAntonio said: But how then would you navigate people who just do not have a tendency to go on social media at all, are just generally disconnected with it and do not have a big digital reach, and have not been vocal online, but then are helpful in real life? I don't know if social media should be held to such high standards in relation to activism, especially because that perpetrates a mentality of "passive insta activism" or whatever one wants to call it that oftentimes is just counterproductive or innefectual. People cannot be satisfied with merely being a presence online and have that be enough to rid them of the need or desire to be activists. I'm not disagreeing with you at all btw, I just genuinely want other's views and opinions. the thing is no one's bashing ppl who aren't usually active on social media. we all know which people post 10 stories a day on instagram and those that post very rarely. it becomes questionable when you're posting those 10 stories but you're at a loss of words all of sudden when it comes to human rights. like you don't even have the energy to make a statement on things that are plaguing society. but thats besides the point, we're talking about kj apa - we know that he has been active on social media and that he has made the choice to not post anything about blm. personally i have been speaking up about it on social media and have been going to protests as well bc i believe in both. If kj wants to go to protests thats great but celebrities efforts would be much better served by also raising awareness online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,783 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Speaking out against hate is not a hot take we're literally Gaga stans cbwwkdxnqfb Everything sounds so repetitive now tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,080 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: LOL you literally just wrote up a bunch of mumbo jumbo thats not even coherent and missed the point. "all the victims of systemic racism" - i'm literally a POC and have experienced systemic racism but I wouldn't put it past some of the white twinks on this forum to understand that. someone with kj apa's platform shouldn't be staying silent when his co-star, vanessa morgan, has stated several times that white people need to speak up for black people and be allys online. also why can I not make a comment on his stance in a thread in the "Lady Gaga fan forum" that was specifically on that topic ? and that's not really a contribution to BLM but it is speaking up on issues that actually matter while y'all come here to cry about the sour candy mv not getting released or some other dumb sh*t like that. lmao this is about black lives, being POC doesn't give you permission to indulge in performative anger. If you're not black, it is your JOB to advocate, educate and amplify - shaming people, performative anger or aggression is doing NOTHING to help the black folks that need us to do the heavy lifting. So let's just get that bit straight. Second, no one said you're not allowed to comment on his stance - I'm just pointing out the fact that you are clearly more interested in being perceived as an angry woke ally who knows more than other people, rather than someone who is actually out there doing the work and fighting for black lives. You're more than welcome to drag KJ Apa - and I will continue to point out how ineffective and misguided your approach to advocating for black lives is by focusing on what celebs say on their social media. Alternatively, let me know if you want to do better and need help finding the contact details of your local representatives to rally for police reform and the arrests of law enforcement responsible for the murder of black lives! Always happy to help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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