George Floyd's Brother isn't happy with the looting and destruction.

[Economy 52,838]

...To continue my earlier comment I'm also fully aware it seems that at least some of the violence is not all from the protestors themselves.

 

 

[audrey horne 1,180]

Systemic racism is a much more wide and important issue to deal with than lootings. Lootings don't kill people. 
Now is the time to fight, to finally make changes. Being outraged by lootings is exactly what people with power in this country want you to feel, for them to avoid recognising and finally working on historic fundamental issues. Don't lose focus. 

[Economy 52,838]

1 minute ago, ice bear said:

@Economy but they're not! the majority of people is there to protest peacefully

your feelings are warranted, violence isn't ideal and in a perfect world wouldn't happen. But you can't say to a people that's being brutalized that their act of unrulyness is abominable, you gotta first ask yourself who is this statement benefiting? is it the government or the people? discrediting is a way of making the fight look dull, it's the same as bringing up that Marsha didn't start the stonewall riots, yes, it might be true, but is it helping anyone in this current situation to know that? no, it's just knowledge devoid of sensibility

and the reason discredibility works so well is because WE KNOW it doesn't come as poison from your mouth, don't think we are happy to see the restaurant of a fellow GGD member's family being burned down, everyone wants peace, but we can't tolerate that when we are desperate for our lives already, being killed, and on top of that being told we're protesting like animals, if anything it will make things worse, it will backfire and make people more angry. No one will ever agree with the way people riot but on the other hand WAR is legal and completely constitutional.

don't expect everyone to have the same level of educational/psychological background as you do in order to be able to fight, this isn't realistic, and sometimes black people are even hindered from learning! 

So your point is valid, but i hope you are also open to learn further from it

 

I do see ur points. And trust me I have been taking in simmilar arguments from other users. I'm not the type of person to stubbornly have a stance and refuse to evaluate it. I'm always taking in more knowledge to further evaluate my stances

 

But so far I still cannot justify any of these actions despite the fact that the anger behind it is justified

 

However for the record I'm also fully aware the majority of protestors did not engage in violence and furthermore that there's some evidence that at least a portion of the bad acts may have also come from non-protestors trying to look bad

 

So I was being very specific at Individuals that in the heat of the moment did not control themselves and attacked targets they had no right to regardless of how they felt and as a result hurt a completely innocent persons livelyhood. I am not shaming the protestors as a whole in general. The vast majority are doing what they need to do.

[Shadow 6,697]

He has a point through.  Educate yourself and VOTE Trump and all racist politicians out of office for 2020.  

[SchwineLove 1,375]

1 hour ago, Autumn said:

they won't listen. this isn't a conversation about george floyd anymore. this now a conversation about systematic racism. it's about the long list of victims of racially motivated police brutality that floyd was just an addition to.

he's the catalyst, not the whole conversation.

yes, this is a momentual opportunity to put an end the systemic racism in US for good. and also a momentual and rare opportunity, to maybe, a chance to overthrow Trump (a reach), or just to make a physical and visible statement to Trump's idiocy.

[ice bear 1]

16 minutes ago, Economy said:

I do see ur points. And trust me I have been taking in simmilar arguments from other users. I'm not the type of person to stubbornly have a stance and refuse to evaluate it. I'm always taking in more knowledge to further evaluate my stances

Thank you for that

please consider that when the government deviates millions of dollars from small businesses to benefit big corporations they are looting as well, it's just not as graphic, but families might also colapse because of that

 

[Economy 52,838]

5 minutes ago, ice bear said:

Thank you for that

please consider that when the government deviates millions of dollars from small businesses to benefit big corporations they are looting as well, it's just not as graphic, but families might also colapse because of that

 

I don't know enough about the technicalities of how the US Government chose to do their bailout and stimulus program this time around to be able to comment here but I'm also not exactly sure what that has to do with this conversation

[ice bear 1]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

I don't know enough about the technicalities of how the US Government chose to do their bailout and stimulus program this time around to be able to comment here but I'm also not exactly sure what that has to do with this conversation

the difference between this and the lootings that are happening on the riots and the corporate ones is only momentum  both wrong, but the one the rich people do is seen as "inevitable"

[Economy 52,838]

3 minutes ago, ice bear said:

the difference between this and the lootings that are happening on the riots and the corporate ones is only momentum  both wrong, but the one the rich people do is seen as "inevitable"

Again, I would have to know more about how the US did it in order to be able to comment here

 

There's a lot of times people misunderstand certain measures as money giveaways to the rich when they are actually not giveaways so I'd need to know more details to take ur word for it that it's not one of those cases

[Suuus 5,632]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

Again, I would have to know more about how the US did it in order to be able to comment here

 

There's a lot of times people misunderstand certain measures as money giveaways to the rich when they are actually not giveaways so I'd need to know more details to take ur word for it that it's not one of those cases

I know its of topic but how are you doing at your job did speak to the manager yet 

[053Timo 1,698]

Can anybody tell me why they are vandalizing everything? All those shop owners have nothing to do with it, right? I really don’t understand that.

and can somebody also tell me what’s about with “If they arrested those 4 people, this wouldn’t have happened”?

I see so many videos from people and especially cops who treat black people so much different. But then again I only see a small part of those videos. I find it hard to fully give my opinion about those videos because mostly I don’t see what have happened before the cops are involved.

Nevertheless I think it’s awesome to see so many people protest for equal rights!

I’m not from the US. We also have a problem with racism in our society, not as big as in the US but still too much.

[Economy 52,838]

15 minutes ago, Suuus said:

I know its of topic but how are you doing at your job did speak to the manager yet 

No I didn't . But at least we were given fans to keep by our stations so that's actually gonna help a bit

 

And the job is still stressing me out a bit with the insane fast pace. Our quotas are like nearly impossible to meet. Apparently a lot of people got fired before me for not meeting the quotas. I'm just barely making them . My hands hurt and stuff

 

But the pay is good (I'm earning the same working full time that I had to work overtime in my last job to get) and soon if I pass probation I'll get the health benefits as well and the commute is short so I wanna try to last in this job at least for a whole considering the economy is in the toilet right now and oppurtunities are few.

[Suuus 5,632]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

No I didn't . But at least we were given fans to keep by our stations so that's actually gonna help a bit

 

And the job is still stressing me out a bit with the insane fast pace. Our quotas are like nearly impossible to meet. Apparently a lot of people got fired before me for not meeting the quotas. I'm just barely making them . My hands hurt and stuff

 

But the pay is good (I'm earning the same working full time that I had to work overtime in my last job to get) and soon if I pass probation I'll get the health benefits as well and the commute is sir so I wanna try to last in this job at least for a whole considering the economy is in the toilet right now and oppurtunities are few.

Im sending you lots of virtual hugs I hope everything Turns out alright for you 

[Economy 52,838]

2 minutes ago, Suuus said:

Im sending you lots of virtual hugs I hope everything Turns out alright for you 

I made a typo

 

In addition to good pay and health benefits I meant to say the commute is also short