Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Reginald said: ngl I love seeing the same users get dragged over and over for posting ignorance Are u sure that u arent talking about yourself? Only people who didnt read the article can think that someone managed to dragged me. Let me guess. U didnt read one sentence from this article? And u talk about ignorance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Florin said: "Lives have been saved" - show me the data. I can already show u data on the effects of the lockdowns that resulted in deaths. If you don't understand how contagion works then you really shouldn't be commenting on it until you do. How does not smoking reduce lung cancer deaths? Geez, I don't know. How does not running out into moving traffic prevent road deaths? Geez, not sure. How does putting dosage levels on medication prevent death from overdose? Wowee, I have no idea. But where is the data? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, KORG said: If you don't understand how contagion works then you really shouldn't be commenting on it until you do. How does not smoking reduce lung cancer deaths? Geez, I don't know. How does not running out into moving traffic prevent road deaths? Geez, not sure. How does putting dosage levels on medication prevent death from overdose? Wowee, I have no idea. But where is the data? Wow. So no data? You dont even realise that there is actually data that smoking increases the risk cancer, that dosage levels of meds were backed by studies. U tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Florin said: Wow. So no data? You dont even realise that there is actually data that smoking increases the risk cancer, that dosage levels of meds were backed by studies. U tried and failed so hard. Where's the data on walking out into traffic please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, KORG said: Where's the data on walking out into traffic please? Well, I'm not sure what data you want with that. The data that shows that people with mental disorders, who would do such a thing, need special attention? The data that shows that different measures like making a crosswalk in different cities reduces car accidents? All that data exists somewhere. U just have to look it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Ibarra 13 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Florin said: An inconvenient truth for lockdown supporters. Btw, for the people who dont bother to read and only react to posts that they agree with: Her opinion is backed by scientists, including Noble prize winners scientists. You just have to look at her previous articles to notice she's against lockdowns. Sure, she cherry-picked some opinions from scientists, but that doesn't mean she's right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Juan Ibarra said: You just have to look at her previous articles to notice she's against lockdowns. Sure, she cherry-picked some opinions from scientists, but that doesn't mean she's right. Tbh, I dont care about her. I noticed she mentions multiple scientists and was thinking to make one article instead of 5. At least she has something to cherry pick. Her opponents dont have even that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Florin said: Well, I'm not sure what data you want with that. The data that shows that people with mental disorders, who would do such a thing, need special attention? The data that shows that different measures like making a crosswalk in different cities reduces car accidents? All that data exists somewhere. U just have to look it up. No, no, you don't understand. I want the data that proves not walking into traffic is preventing deaths. I want data please. Thanks. While you're at it, I'd also like data that shows how many lives are saved by not running up to a pride of Lions in the wild whilst coated in smoked bacon. I do hope you understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, KORG said: No, no, you don't understand. I want the data that proves not walking into traffic is preventing deaths. I want data please. Thanks. While you're at it, I'd also like data that shows how many lives are saved by not running up to a pride of Lions in the wild whilst coated in smoked bacon. I do hope you understand. All the data is outhere. Dont u know that lions eat humans? Dont u know that car accidents end up sometimes in deaths? stop already. That's how non existent your data is about lockdowns effectiveness? You turned to lions, car accidents, smoking cancer and failed even with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavaye 410 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Florin said: No. Data that we have until now dont show that the lockdowns were effective. Social distancing is another thing. I don't know about data that you have, but in my country lockdown did everything that was needed. We were first country in Europe (after Faroe Islands) to be completely corona virus free, 0 cases for 23 days now. So, not sure what other proof you'd need. xoxo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicixs 3,559 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 https://www.nber.org/digest/may20/w26906.shtml "The results demonstrate the role human mobility restrictions can play in containing the spread of contagious disease, and suggest that their imposition can help reduce the peak number of cases and allow stressed medical systems a chance to better cope with the flow of new cases." You are severely misinformed and ignorant for posting ONE article attempting to discredit Lockdowns. We understand this will have a lasting impact on our economy as well as other issues, however, we did was right in the moment. I honestly do not understand how this thread hasn't been closed for the spread of misinformation Religion is a product to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Florin said: All the data is outhere. Dont u know that lions eat humans? Dont u know that car accidents end up sometimes in deaths? stop already. That's how non existent your data is about lockdowns effectiveness? You turned to lions, car accidents, smoking cancer and failed even with that. So you're saying lions can kill humans? Like a deadly virus? Gosh. Car accidents end up in deaths? So it's best to AVOID THEM?! Wow. You sure did make some good points. If only there was a way to slow down the spread of a virus. Something like stopping contact to prevent it spreading. Some kind of way of locking things in a direction opposite to up. A lockdown! I'm so glad you've come to your senses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, KORG said: So you're saying lions can kill humans? Like a deadly virus? Gosh. Car accidents end up in deaths? So it's best to AVOID THEM?! Wow. You sure did make some good points. If only there was a way to slow down the spread of a virus. Something like stopping contact to prevent it spreading. Some kind of way of locking things in a direction opposite to up. A lockdown! I'm so glad you've come to your senses. Well. It's your problem if you need a lockdown to reduces your contacts. I'm not sure. Do u need a lockdown to not go into a lion cage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Logical fallacy (you might learn at a tertiary institution) - Argumentum ad verecundiam -- Argument to authority -- this fallacy attempts to prove an argument because of a misplaced sense of authority, such as believing anything that comes from people(s) who won a Nobel prize. Some real logic. There is a direct correlation in numerous geolocalities when a lockdown was placed that there started to be respective decline in cases within 14 days (rough incubation period for the virus). I live in Australia and people actually followed the rules here. At a period, we were getting 500 cases a day. Now it is basically zero, and the economy is starting up again in full swing. Take the flip example, there have been mini outbreaks in many locations when lockdown restrictions were being eased (e.g. Korea, Japan) so if the inverse occurs when lockdowns are lifted, one might deduce that they actually work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Florin said: Well. It's your problem if you need a lockdown to reduces your contacts. I'm not sure. Do u need a lockdown to not go into a lion cage? A lion cage? Like the danger has been locked down? Geez, could you imagine that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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