Fanta 5,019 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Brecht said: So what are you doing in a Lady gaga forum when she worked with two rapists and said on numerous interviews that the media was lying about them? EDIT: I’m not even going to bother, it’s always a losing game (where I lose a few IQ points along the way arguing with y’all) when I have to discuss racism, PoC and minority injustice on GGD. Continue being delusional, I already have two warning points that haven’t expired yet so until then I’ll have to keep it cute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fanta said: She’s already dealt with this recently + back then. Now, that doesn’t change the facts about anything I said regarding Shane, racism and injustice for minorities and PoC. If this was the only ignorant reply you could have came up with I honestly would have preferred for you to shut the f!ck up. Y’all will pull anything out of your asses to not address these things. Agree: Also, I kind of hate this tendency to go "what about Gaga" when ever anyone addresses something problematic on here or even is slightly critical of non-problematic things. Bringing her in is unnecessary 95% of the time in these cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, LilyLark said: Also, I kind of hate this tendency to go "what about Gaga" when ever anyone addresses something problematic on here or even is slightly critical of non-problematic things. Bringing her in is unnecessary 95% of the time in these cases. I edited my reply out to try and keep it cute, but exactly. It’s a losing game convincing some of these people to pull their heads out of the sand to get real with what’s really going on. It ain’t gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brecht 7 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Fanta said: She’s already dealt with this recently + back then. Now, that doesn’t change the facts about anything I said regarding Shane, racism and injustice for minorities and PoC. If this was the only ignorant reply you could have came up with I honestly would have preferred for you to shut the f!ck up. Y’all will pull anything out of your asses to not address these things. 1. You could be a little more polite and not a disrespectful brat. This is an opinion board where people are allowed to give their opinion so no, i won't shut the **** up. 2. I don't understand the difference here. Gaga has apologized and so has Shane. He has talked about this countless times. So why can you excuse Gaga for what she did and not Shane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,926 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Ally Campana said: Sort of off-topic but I find it alarming how common it is for white people to do/say racist things, most of them at a young age. Cause let me tell you, I might have said some dumb sh*t as a kid but it was never a racial slur nor something racist. On topic, sort of ashamed to say I never knew this controversy about Shane. I used to watch him when he did those conspiracy videos and was actually a fan then. Stop watching him after he did that documentary type video with Jeffree Star. I guess I made the right call after all. !!!!! It is beyond me how people still watch and support him and Jeffree 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, Fanta said: I edited my reply out to try and keep it cute, but exactly. It’s a losing game convincing some of these people to pull their heads out of the sand to get real with what’s really going on. It ain’t gonna happen. One time on here I tried to discuss how it's possible to think there are flaws with cancel culture AND also address issues like racism, misogyny, anti-semitism, etc. and it didn't go so well lol. Some turn everything into an either/or situation on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Talenti said: It is beyond me how people still watch and support him and Jeffree They simply don’t care about the issue at hand Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,098 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Talenti said: !!!!! It is beyond me how people still watch and support him and Jeffree I was so disappointed in Jeffree. As bad as it was, I thought he apologized and changed and he had been in his late teens/early 20s...and then all that racist sh*t came out from like last year :(. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mary 1,051 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Brecht said: 1. You could be a little more polite and not a disrespectful brat. This is an opinion board where people are aloud to give their opinion so no, i won't shut the **** up. 2. I don't understand the difference here. Gaga has apologized and so has Shane. He has talked about this countless times. So why can you excuse Gaga for what she did and not Shane? because = hypocrisy he seems to know all about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,926 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, LilyLark said: I was so disappointed in Jeffree. As bad as it was, I thought he apologized and changed and he had been in his late teens/early 20s...and then all that racist sh*t came out from like last year :(. They’re both just so annoying and narcissistic, also I love how non POC are saying to “forgive and move on” like... That’s not up to you to decide And they haven’t even done any contributions that support other POC through organizations, etc. They don’t care whether their actions were wrong or not, they just care whether we forgive them or not that way their business/reputation doesn’t get tarnished. And this goes to a lottttt of celebrities, ESPECIALLY to people like Justin Bieber. 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunninMan 1,406 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 hours ago, lodylody said: Well it's everyone's joint decision who to cancel, just speaking practically here If half the world won't cancel him, he's not really cancelled When it comes to racial issues it’s not actually everyone. A white person cant forgive another person who does blackface or said the N word because it doesn’t and will never affect them... sure we can all choose to cancel someone for doing so but it holds no merit if you’re of the same race (mainly white) as the person doing it. Only black people, other POC, LGBTQ+ etc. who have actual terms used against them can choose to forgive or cancel someone for saying or doing something that negates said community(ies). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mary 1,051 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 both from 10ish years ago....are you cancelling her? if so...what are you doing here? bye! now what pisses me your bland same old arguments trying to be social justice warriors of the world....and the fact that those arguments only valid with the people you don't like/stan Shane apologised, gaga apologised (prov WAAAy fewer times than Shane, one tweet and that's it. ) just leave lmao and stop embarrassing yourselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,746 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunninMan said: When it comes to racial issues it’s not actually everyone. A white person cant forgive another person who does blackface or said the N word because it doesn’t and will never affect them... sure we can all choose to cancel someone for doing so but it holds no merit if you’re of the same race (mainly white) as the person doing it. Only black people, other POC, LGBTQ+ etc. who have actual terms used against them can choose to forgive or cancel someone for saying or doing something that negates said community(ies). I'm talking about the practicalities of cancelling someone. I'm saying that if the community victimised by the statements don't choose to forgive and try to 'cancel' someone, they aren't necessarily cancelled if others don't follow suit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunninMan 1,406 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, lodylody said: I'm talking about the practicalities of cancelling someone. I'm saying that if the community victimised by the statements don't choose to forgive and try to 'cancel' someone, they aren't necessarily cancelled if others don't follow suit That’s literally what I just said lol, we are just wording it differently I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erfaan 2,794 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Yikes. Some you really do not understand your privilege and have the slightest understanding of societal issues that do not affect you. Cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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