Joanne would have been a bigger hit

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Just now, ProjectJoanne said:

It’s one of mine too, imagine making a deep cut as a lead single... wait a lot of people are actually doing that now, maybe I should do that 

You just did with IWABBYS 

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22 minutes ago, Kattys said:

The biggest mistake was promoting it as some kind of „relatable to woman in her 30s album that I made for that kind of regular girl” when in reality she made that album for herself and her family.

The message was not cohesive for me.

In a few interviews, she said that she wanted to make an album for a woman in her 30s, and then throughout the recording process she realised that the woman she was making the album for was herself (and her family). The message was cohesive to me?

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11 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

Experimental is a subjective term. Maybe it’s experimental for her? 

I don’t think it was even experimental for her and she never made it out to be. It was pretty classic instrumentation which she is *very* comfortable with. The whole point of Joanne, at least for her, was that it *wasn’t* experimental and took her back to her roots “without the wigs.” I’d say BTW was her most experimental record. It isn’t really all that experimental either (though very good), but it’s definitely her most experimental as she toyed with mashing so many disparate genres together. 

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14 minutes ago, catsandlabneh said:

I would say it's different from her usual style, not experimental tbh

what is your act from?

 

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5 minutes ago, LGs LM said:

You just did with IWABBYS 

Th- That’s not the lead... OR even a single 

But it can be 

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7 minutes ago, BlahForever1 said:

In a few interviews, she said that she wanted to make an album for a woman in her 30s, and then throughout the recording process she realised that the woman she was making the album for was herself (and her family). The message was cohesive to me?

I know she said that but it was huge meh for me as a customer. I just didn’t care about whole story, it was about her aunt, then about her, then about her dad, then something else, just not cohesive.

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17 minutes ago, LGs LM said:

I think A-Yo would've been a better lead single because it's a good mix of pop and country, so it's the perfect transition to introduce the other singles that sound more country. DIC would be a better promo single than John Wayne. Million Reasons is perfect for 2nd single, Joanne for 3rd, and Diamond for 4th and final single. So that's 2 upbeat singles and 2 ballads.

The prob would prob be the narrative. 

Im sure interscope chose perf illusion for the breakup buzz. 

For me ayo is a safe choice that wouldnt have great legs but people would get, oh she goin country. Oh this is different gaga without unecessary theatrics. I see a potential fun video and she could make it about tyler if she wanted. The lyrica are very vague

Humm thinking about it, after ayo, dic wouldnt be bad choice. As she is proclaiming her independance and enjoying. But john wayne really tells us more about the album and gaga

Id change def diamond heart. If the public was on for the album, could be a great way to give a video with how gaga came to be in a non artist way, ala marry the night. But a gp friendly and with some rockstar moves. 

Tho i think come to mamma could work and have all friendly singles. 

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51 minutes ago, Linus Gaga said:

If Joanne or Million Reasons was the 1st single it would have been better

and exactly, she looks more like acting to be the simple nature woman even though she said this is more her real self. 

To me I could have done without million reasons as a single at all. I mean it’s not even the best ballad on the album.

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8 minutes ago, ADVENTURE said:

To me I could have done without million reasons as a single at all. I mean it’s not even the best ballad on the album.

I think  it was the most befitting single 

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The fact that she literally said Perfect Illusion was about Instagram and how the internet was a toilet 

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8 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

I think  it was the most befitting single 

It should have been the lead honestly 😂

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15 minutes ago, whipopotamus said:

The fact that she literally said Perfect Illusion was about Instagram and how the internet was a toilet 

 she said exactly  that?

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46 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

 she said exactly  that?

I’ll never never find the video ... but she definitely said that   
 

cant remember if it was a promo spot or a call in interview. Does anyone remember?

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It would have been a much bigger hit if it came out after A Star Is Born. Gaga lived that movie and it informed the sound but to fans it seemed like a left turn. After seeing the film, and the success of Shallow, I think more people would have understood her inspiration.

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I think people need to remember how 5ft2 begins. She tells us how she was going to star in a film directed by Bradley Cooper. Regardless of how the exact events fit into the timeline from ARTPOP through ASIB, I think it's easy to connect enough high-level dots to realize that "I'm going to star in a film directed by Bradley Cooper" was the most important factor of went down from the moment she ditched her AHS-inspired LG5 until the release of Stupid Love. 

The reimagination of Lady Gaga post-ARTPOP was a series of very calculated moves executed extremely well and shifted the public's perception and recognition of her farther from the Rah Rah Biatch to a well-rounded, multi-faceted artist: vocals, multiple instruments, songwriting, producing, acting. The opportunity to be reborn for Act II by starring in an Oscar-nominated film for which she would be able to contribute an entire soundtrack for the masses to consume was clearly more important than any song or album she would release before. 

I think the story of why Joanne was such a non-event is as simple as it seems. She and her team literally weren't that invested in its commercial success. Her singles peaked at 15 and 27 (?) pre-Superbowl, and they literally slept on the chance to release a 3rd after she regained relevancy and hype when Million Reasons re-entered at #4. Why would they do that unless its purpose was more than just charts, sales, and awards? 

To make ASIB the success it was, they needed to put a period on the "transformative" era of performances with LG5. It needed to cement what The Sound of Music, TIHTY, etc. had done by providing the GP with a safe, digestible album that showcased her pure talent. It couldn't dominate the narrative in a way that could spill over into the ASIB era and have Lady Gaga the Rah Rah Biatch overshadow Ally. 

NOTHING about Joanne makes sense if you try to look at it as being anything more than a means to an ASIB goal. We talk about Chromatica as being her comeback to pop for a reason- we know how much work she put into this. Would she have risked her comeback from ARTPOP on an album that has no obviously viable singles on it? Would she have wasted the Superbowl on an album that she had only 1 song to sing off? No way. 

Joanne was a safe recalibration to set her up for ASIB. It succeeded and gave her a #1 album, a cute #4 single that she used and abused, and somehow, a Grammy. We can debate forever which other songs could've replaced Perfect Illusion as a #15 peak lead single; none of the other options would have done any better, and clearly she and her team agreed since even after the era got some life post-SB, they released a non-album single with The Cure. Dancin in Circles was Gaga-lite at best; using "funk/phunk" in place of an f-bomb has never passed censorship and DIC would have TANKED as a single if it weren't able to get airplay.