The Grammy's are racist and they don't matter

[Mr S 8,672]

Just now, DiskoBaby said:

It all just goes to show the voters need to be replaced by younger people who understand music today. They're winners don't represent current popular music. 

I agree.

And while we're on this topic, Gaga isn't winning with Chromatica either. It's dance music, that relies more on samples and beats. The voters will not consider that "real music".

In 30 years when all those older musicians who grew up with safe/traditional music die and are replaced with mondern younger voters, then we will see more progressive winners. It's already started with Childish Gambino winning with something I never thought possible.

[ANTI WP 19,825]

@RenegAde @Adarsh Just  stop wasting your time 

 

They are not here for the REAL talk 

 

 

[ThisGuyTony 30,627]

1 hour ago, Fame Romance said:

I wouldn’t say “racist” since many black artists have won many Grammys, but more like too US-centered. Practically all non-white artists that have won a Grammy are US centered.
 

Asian, African, Latin American artists are snubbed by these awards that are supposed to be the biggest prize for music in the world.

True. They made a Latin Grammy’s award for Latin American artists, which is probably why those artists won’t be seen on the actual main Grammy’s show.

OT: I think the Grammys voting committee is out of touch and they have  more traditional preferences for what kind of music gets each of the awards.

I don’t think it’s racism, but it doesn’t “fit” the mold of what the Grammy’s are trying to present as the best song/album/artist that year. 

[Red Velvet 10,988]

9 minutes ago, Brecht said:

How is that a racial stereotype? We can have a conversation with real arguments or if you have none you can call your twitter girls to gang up on me 

Here comes the Twitter remark you made. Just because you mostly see fans in Twitter, DOES NOT mean you can generalize all of us BLINKs as that particular group.

 

K-Pop is Korean pop music, which is from an Asian country. They may not be all Asian artists, but they are Asian artists.

 

Oh, and here's the manufacture remark. You are not one who is seeing all the creative control of the artists. K-Pop artists do make their music, do their concepts and perform.

If you do not believe me, let's first look at the tons of receipts I am about to pull out.

Let's start with Spit It Out by MAMAMOO's Solar.

Songwriter(s): Solar • Kim-Do Hoon

Producer(s) : Kim-Do Hoon • Kim Sung-won

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_It_Out_(Solar_song)

 

Let's start next with Feel Special by TWICE, and not the song, the whole album.

Track 2: Rainbow, lyrics solely written by Nayeon, a member of the group

Track 3: Get Loud, lyrics written by JQ and Jihyo

Track 4: Trick It, lyrics written by JQ and Dahyun

Track 5: Love Foolish, lyrics written by Momo and Shim Eun-Ji

Track 6: 21:29, lyrics written by all members

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_Special

 

And to end things up, because I am tired of pulling receipts to broaden the horizons of your very stuck up mindset, here is Map of the Soul: 7 by BTS.

All members have atleast wrote and contributed to one song.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_the_Soul:_7

[Red Velvet 10,988]

Oh yeah, and I don't care if they give me warning points or not. 

[RenegAde 19,171]

11 minutes ago, DiskoBaby said:

You completely missed the point

You cant say they are racist when they have awarded several black artist in the main categories and some of their most awarded artist of all time are black. 

Btw i find this award argument so corny. Although i agree that they should be some form of equal repesentation of races and sexes,award shows are not an avenue for promoting societal equality. Its an avenue for awarding deserving  artist based on the academy's vote 

With the grammys, The artist are awarded purely based on the merit of the academy , no one knows what every individual member of the acadmys rationale was for voting for an artist. 

Although i agree they should definitely  be equal representation at the end of the day Its an award show.  5 women dont have to win just because 5 men won . And 5 black people dont have to win just because 5 white people won . 

At the end of the day this issue has been over-flogged  and trashed too many times and i believe  some improvement have been made over the years.

 

 

[Guest Adarsh]

8 minutes ago, ANTI WP said:

@RenegAde @Adarsh Just  stop wasting your time 

 

They are not here for the REAL talk 

 

 

I’m not saying anything now. We account for almost half the world’s population yet we’re invisible to them 

[Andreu 37,216]

 

55 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

Is this supposed to be a joke? Name one act that can rival BTS and Blackpink’s popularity right now. 

Multiple spanish speaking artists that get pushed aside to the "latin" version of it so the main grammys can ignore them

 

[ANTI WP 19,825]

1 minute ago, Adarsh said:

I’m not saying anything now. We account for almost half the world’s population yet we’re invisible to them 

Maybe it their preference/ taste 

 

[Guest Adarsh]

2 minutes ago, Andreu said:

 

Bad Bunny and J Balvin who for the record dont have any grammy either

 

My thoughts exactly 

[Anderson123 38,376]

Justice for Melodrama, Norman Rockwell and Born This Way. 

[DavidLuis198 1,146]

7 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Although i agree they should definitely  be equal representation at the end of the day Its an award show.  5 women dont have to win just because 5 men won . And 5 black people dont have to win just because 5 white people won .

That's okay to happen, if in a certain year 70% of the awards were given to white men for example, this would be okay, kind of weird, but it could happen. It becomes a problem when every year the same 70% white men continue to win when there are really good music from other people who deserve it.

Equal representation does not mean it should all be 50/50, it means the work should talk by himself and be awarded for it's quality, have the same chances as any other body of work. But that's not what happens when year after year we have lots of minorities not being represented, or just getting an nomination or niche award as a way to say "Congratulations, you exist!"

[RenegAde 19,171]

2 minutes ago, DavidLuis198 said:

It becomes a problem when every year the same 70% white men continue to win when there are really good music from other people who deserve it.

But this is not the  state of facts today is it?,

[HoneyB 27,926]

Ofc this sh*t show has 10 pages

OT: I agrih, black, hispanic, and asian men and women have always been snubbed but this isn't new information.

[DavidLuis198 1,146]

2 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

But this is not the  state of facts today is it?,

In the last 10 years, 9 white artists won AOTY