Marina's manager fired while on maternity leave

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21 minutes ago, Kulture Kiari said:

Most of you guys are being disgusting in this thread. Especially on this site being filled with mostly LGBQT+ members. Being fired during maternity leave is complete BS regardless if it's being a manager to a famous singer or working at a grocery store. 

And those saying "How is a women affected more than a man?" 

Um, excuse me? A woman carries a baby for 9 freaking months. She gives birth, whether regularly or via C-section, they still need time to recover. You guys think that the women use that time to party and drink? Both of my sister's recently gave birth and trust me, they had trouble standing up even after 10 days after giving birth. One of them even started bleeding and it was something scary. I'm not trying to say the father, or men have it easy either, but they dont have to be cut open to bring another baby to this world. 

Whether its Marina or not, whoever fired her during her maternity leave is unacceptable. Why not hire a temp and then, when the women in question comes to work, why not address the issue? 

Our whole system is sh"t. If a man or woman goes to a model agency they´ll expect them to look a certain way, if a man or woman goes to Elite Model Management, Ford Models or IMG Models and they are 5 ft 3 sorry but they won´t get in same if they get hired and then drastically change (like gaining 30lbs) they most likely will be without a job. If an athlete can´t compete with others they simply don´t qualify. Are they victims? Probably but the reality is that this woman I am sure was aware that at some point this could happen simply because an artist is not going to stop his/her career because someone is not going to be available for whatever amount of time, I am sure she knows how demanding being a manager is. We are not talking about a woman who worked at an office in Pennsylvania, we are talking about a person who manged the career of renown singer. 

She knew the job description did not include taking time (which naturally she has to take) off whenever she wanted to. Sorry but that´s how it is. 

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35 minutes ago, mauvais said:

Firing your manager whilst on maternity leave is pretty inexcusable. Maternity leave is an opportunity for assistant managers, day-to-day managers and a slew of other people working with artists to step up. 

In this line of work, the arrival of children obviously must be planned down to the minute but Gaga has various managers and assistants who could easily function as Bobby's stand-in if he had a kid. Managers justify their existence with the near constant coddling of their artists but how else could managers with more than one artist on their roster function? 

1 hour ago, darkchylde said:

the point is she was never given a chance to prove she can commute being a manager and a parent. secondly, i don't consider the amount of work managing Marina and Gaga are the same. last, no job requires near constant availability. if it does, you're being exploited. even if you're representing someone very high profile (i.e. Gaga), you're allowed a work schedule and you're allowed your own life, thats why A list artists usually have different managers regarding different aspects of their schedule.

it's not like the only choice Marina had was to fire her manager and it's not like her career would suffer if her manager decided to become a mom, specially now that she's on hiatus and a temporary substitue could more easily adapt to whatever Marina's needs are.

we don't even know if Marina's up to decide who manages her (maybe it's up to her label or there's a complex situation going on here) but the truth is that if she is talking about Marina this is such a nasty move from her that can hardly be excused or defended.

In the case that Marina has other people who are able to fill in as her manager while she is on maternity leave, then it seems to me that the fact she's on maternity leave probably had little to do with the reason she was fired. In that case she was probably just a shït manager and would have been fired regardless (esp if this is the woman who managed the L+F era ). I don't think Marina should have any obligation to keep someone as her manager regardless of their sex or status as a parent; if she fired her she was probably just bad at her job. I don't think it's that deep tbh. I respect everyone's opinion tho. 

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24 minutes ago, Guapo said:

Our whole system is sh"t. If a man or woman goes to a model agency they´ll expect them to look a certain way, if a man or woman goes to Elite Model Management, Ford Models or IMG Models and they are 5 ft 3 sorry but they won´t get in same if they get hired and then drastically change (like gaining 30lbs) they most likely will be without a job. If an athlete can´t compete with others they simply don´t qualify. Are they victims? Probably but the reality is that this woman I am sure was aware that at some point this could happen simply because an artist is not going to stop his/her career because someone is not going to be available for whatever amount of time, I am sure she knows how demanding being a manager is. We are not talking about a woman who worked at an office in Pennsylvania, we are talking about a person who manged the career of renown singer. 

She knew the job description did not include taking time (which naturally she has to take) off whenever she wanted to. Sorry but that´s how it is. 

Ok. So let's treat her like a robot because, managers ain't human right. The celebrities they're taking care of, are basically the managers baby, right? But when the superstar gets pregnant, "F*ck her job, right?" You have to understand that not all managers aren't like Scooter that has multiple people under her roster. They're some managers that dedicate 24/7 of their life to a star, and for someone to fire her during maternity leave, again, is not right. 

(and the difference between your example and what's going on, those models, athletes, etc get denied from the beginning if they dont qualify. This is someone who has been working with this star for awhile. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.)

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Oh wow. First she releases a horrible album and now this, she's over.

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I'd sue her ass, they live in the UK where people actually have rights, unlike other places in the world. 

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Difficult topic, but I suppose I understand why the artists did what they did. 🧐

Pretty sure the reasoning most likely be her and her own baby safety. It is a job that's pretty physical. Sure, not as physical as construction workers. But they are still needed on certain places that is quite challenging. The manager said it herself that she once made decision to bring her own two weeks baby to work field. And her body was still aching then, but expected to stand on the outside for 3 hours. That is not OK in professional world. Especially in a field like showbiz, where accidents always happen. The baby and herself is liability in this case. Anyone who hired her would not want to be sued if anything happen to herself, or worse, to the baby. Even if it is not the artist fault, they will be dragged down to it. That is not something people like to be involved in.

On the other hand, manager are always expected to be ready for the artists 24/7. They will need to report to the artists all the time, as much as the artists need to confirm about their scheduling. Plus, people from outside who wanted to hire the artists will need to speak to the manager first. Before they relay it to the artists.  So it is not position that can be easily replaced by a stand in. They either gonna give the responsibilities to the assistant-manager, making them the main manager, or get a new manager altogether. I don't think maternity leave work for showbiz cos of this reasoning. And I supposed the artists also think the same, which is probably why they did what they did, regardless if the artists are men or women.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cervaantes said:

Oh wow. First she releases a horrible album and now this, she's over.

She didn't release Ultaviolence, did she?

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9 hours ago, Amphetamine said:

Some of you are making some bold ass assumptions. Maybe she was just a shït manager and that's why she got fired. Admittedly, I'm a little biased in favor of Marina, but I have a hard time imagining she would fire someone simply for taking a maternity leave and no other reason. I'm positive there must be more to the story that we aren't hearing. If Marina did in fact fire her, I bet she had a genuine reason to, so let's not jump to any rash conclusions without getting the full picture. 

This, thank you. We don't even know for 100 % if it's about Marina, but people are already happy to do #MarinaIsOverParty. 

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8 hours ago, Brecht said:

It is completely a matter of gender. Would a man drop their job to take care of his children? NO. It all falls down on women. So women will be fired while men will thrive. 

Times are changing tough.

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Ya’ll have nothing better to do. Go read a book or something.

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5 minutes ago, TMM90 said:

Ya’ll have nothing better to do. Go read a book or something.

That's actually a very good advice! I should do my hometask for tomorrow. 

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I don’t get it, your manager is someone you need to work with on the daily, maternity leave has her without one for months. Why not hire another?

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5 hours ago, darkchylde said:

the point is she was never given a chance to prove she can commute being a manager and a parent

She's been Marina's manager for a long time and she already has two other kids. How are we sure she was never given a chance to prove those things in the past?

I'm a huge fan of Marina and I was already stanning her before Gaga. She's the reason why I start making making music so I think it's fair (as a fan) to give her the benefit of a doubt while she still hasn't responded yet. Though, I'm gonna be very upset if she did fire her manager SOLELY because of maternity leave. I wouldn't know how to react.

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We don’t even know it’s Marina she’s referring to. Didn’t Jess also manage Shania Twain? 

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1 hour ago, Trillion Reasons said:

She didn't release Ultaviolence, did she?

What kinda tasteless post omg hide it