Elizabeth Warren's brother died from coronavirus

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[Pop Music 20,540]

this is horrible to hear this morning

I went to one of her rallies and was like 15 ft away from her for about 2 hours and she sold me on her so fast (even though I was 75% sure I was gonna caucus for her) and I was so sad when she didn't last long at my caucus 

I love her so much and I'm sending endless amounts of love and hugs her way

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

This is heartbreaking, you can tell how much she cares about people in general. She was a perfect candidate in my opinion. Sending her love 

[Franch Toast 27,737]

Love her so much! She must be in so much pain right now. Sending her love and strength. 

Covid-19 ain't nothin' to mess with!

[axelwolf 114]

I don't trust this at all with many doctors coming out that they're being instructed to list near enough every death as corona related. 

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3 minutes ago, axelwolf said:

I don't trust this at all with many doctors coming out that they're being instructed to list near enough every death as corona related. 

Considering she is a senator, I doubt they werent extra carefull with this one. 

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38 minutes ago, Pop Music said:

this is horrible to hear this morning

I went to one of her rallies and was like 15 ft away from her for about 2 hours and she sold me on her so fast (even though I was 75% sure I was gonna caucus for her) and I was so sad when she didn't last long at my caucus 

I love her so much and I'm sending endless amounts of love and hugs her way

She was a solid second choice for me.  She had some questionable things during her campaign, but she knows how to run things and makes sure to stand her ground (her debate with Mike Bloomberg was my favorite.  I personally felt if she was like that the whole time, she would've been a lot more competitive to Biden and Bernie).

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7 hours ago, axelwolf said:

I don't trust this at all with many doctors coming out that they're being instructed to list near enough every death as corona related. 

Here are the CDC's guidelines:  

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

And a relevant paragraph from same:

“In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.”

This isn't materially different from how you might count flu deaths, for instance. Not every person who is counted as a flu death is going to have a test that proves it. 

 

The whole "car accident deaths" thing seems to have gained traction much like the "I have cousin who knows a guy in the National Guard and they locking us down soon, martial low!" My suspicion is that this, too, is carefully crafted misinformation. 

It's much more likely that deaths are being undercounted.