HighwayGuy 1,498 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, beabeaxo5 said: This "transgender umbrella' is the same umbrella that believes male crossdressers and drag queens belong under the transgender identity, so no Being trans* just basically includes everyone who doesn't align with the sex they were assigned at birth... no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, beabeaxo5 said: This "transgender umbrella' is the same umbrella that believes male crossdressers and drag queens belong under the transgender identity, so no Can’t it be argued that non-binary people change gender identities and therefore could be considered transgender though? They’re just not going from one binary to the other reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch 10,513 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, beabeaxo5 said: This "transgender umbrella' is the same umbrella that believes male crossdressers and drag queens belong under the transgender identity, so no Because that's definitely up for you to decide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, blankpaper said: Can’t it be argued that non-binary people change gender identities and therefore could be considered transgender though? They’re just not going from one binary to the other That's literally a contradiction though. How can they change gender if they completely dismiss it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Queen Bitch said: Because that's definitely up for you to decide Well, as a trans woman, yes it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch 10,513 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, beabeaxo5 said: Well, as a trans woman, yes it is Not really though. What about all the trans women who support non-binary people being included under the trans umbrella? Are they just wrong because you say so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said: Not really though. What about all the trans women who support non-binary people being included under the trans umbrella? Are they just wrong because you say so? You literally have no ground to tell me I can't. I'm not letting this "trans umbrella" (which is literally a construct) to define and group me with people who aren't transsexual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch 10,513 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, beabeaxo5 said: You literally have no ground to tell me I can't. I'm not letting this "trans umbrella" (which is literally a construct) to define and group me with people who aren't transsexual. No you're right. I'll just let you pretend that you're a spokesperson for all trans people. Have fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, beabeaxo5 said: You literally have no ground to tell me I can't. I'm not letting this "trans umbrella" (which is literally a construct) to define and group me with people who aren't transsexual. But transsexual and transgender are two different things? Is someone not valid as transgender if they can’t afford to medically transition? reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said: Not really though. What about all the trans women who support non-binary people being included under the trans umbrella? Are they just wrong because you say so? No matter what other transsexual women think, there is literal medical & scientific definition of being a transsexual woman and surprisingly is not the same as being non-binary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said: No you're right. I'll just let you pretend that you're a spokesperson for all trans people. Have fun. Never said I was sweetie, enjoy making your own narratives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Tookie 10,546 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 To save myself from receiving a warning point for what I truly have to say, let me just insert this gif. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 THEY are ignorant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, blankpaper said: But transsexual and transgender are two different things? Is someone not valid as transgender if they can’t afford to medically transition? Even then, transgender is defined as "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex". It's still defined within the gender binary, non binary is the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch 10,513 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, beabeaxo5 said: No matter what other transsexual women think, there is literal medical & scientific definition of being a transsexual woman and surprisingly is not the same as being non-binary. But there is a difference between being transgender and a transsexual. Non-binary people are transgender. I don't know why you have such a hard time accepting them as being under the transgender umbrella. Are you afraid they will take away attention from you? Spoiler alert, they won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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