Born Brave 2,072 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Suuus said: Gaga often cooks her own food but oke Ohh, omg you’re right. Never mind she’s totally off the hook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, ice bear said: To be a hater you have to be focusing, so they're part of the fandom too But like... cmon it's not realistic to expect everyone to behave like hippies, the toxicity comes from a source, from personal issues, it's not going away just from lecturing it away Yes my biggest frustration during this whole time was not with Gaga and I knew that immediately. It was everything I was feeling because of this pandemic finally having a target: "Gaga delaying the album and making everything worse. Rip the bitch apart!" I've since cooled off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, PopFanatic said: Hot take, but you're right and you're wrong. Like yes, nobody is *entitled* to her music. But I also don't support her current actions. She announced Chromatica on March 2nd and said it was coming out 4/10. By the time of the announcement (on March 2nd), Coronavirus was already a decent-sized issue. So it's not like she announced it far in advance and then changed her mind when she saw what was happening. She knew what was happening already and still chose to announce it and get everyone's hopes up. So no, this isn't a result of us "creating nonexistent release dates and expectations" this is a result of her announcing an album's release date - in the middle of a pandemic - and then going back on that three weeks later. Lady Gaga has always spoke about wanting to heal people with her music and help them...and then she chooses to not release an album that would lift up spirits when we actually need it the most? Yeah, I'm not buying it. This was a calculated move, IMO, because they wouldn't have been able to get the coverage they wanted to and thus lower sales. It probably wasn't even Gaga's fault, TBH, but her labels, but it was a money based decision - not a benevolent one. Because "this isn't the proper time to release a happy album" is complete bullcrap. I can't help but feel jaded as a long-time Gaga fan because if she really was all about love and healing people with her music, this album wouldn't have been delayed. Hell, it might have come out earlier. 1) The coronavirus was an issue during that time, but it wasn't as huge as it is now. Nothing was closed, business didn't shut down yet and schools/universities weren't close yet. The US certainly didn't take any action yet, which is why most people thought it was still okay to do "normal" type of activities during the time. 2) Gaga wants to help others by donating and raising money to fight the virus, which is the main problem right now. Yes, many people are devastated and are in a bad mental state now, but what she's doing now by helping others is way more important than releasing music. She's donating to people who are trying to find a cure for the virus and donating to others who are in need of equipment and food. 3) She and her team probably had that release date set in January, where the virus wasn't a huge issue yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,820 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Entitlement is a huge issue with the human race tbh Even poor unpriveledged people can display entitlement sometimes you see it all the time tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Born Brave said: Ohh, omg you’re right. Never mind she’s totally off the hook. The only gaga hooks up with is micheals d Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epione 10,896 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Not this again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, PopFanatic said: Hot take, but you're right and you're wrong. Like yes, nobody is *entitled* to her music. But I also don't support her current actions. She announced Chromatica on March 2nd and said it was coming out 4/10. By the time of the announcement (on March 2nd), Coronavirus was already a decent-sized issue. So it's not like she announced it far in advance and then changed her mind when she saw what was happening. She knew what was happening already and still chose to announce it and get everyone's hopes up. So no, this isn't a result of us "creating nonexistent release dates and expectations" this is a result of her announcing an album's release date - in the middle of a pandemic - and then going back on that three weeks later. Lady Gaga has always spoke about wanting to heal people with her music and help them...and then she chooses to not release an album that would lift up spirits when we actually need it the most? Yeah, I'm not buying it. This was a calculated move, IMO, because they wouldn't have been able to get the coverage they wanted to and thus lower sales. It probably wasn't even Gaga's fault, TBH, but her labels, but it was a money based decision - not a benevolent one. Because "this isn't the proper time to release a happy album" is complete bullcrap. I can't help but feel jaded as a long-time Gaga fan because if she really was all about love and healing people with her music, this album wouldn't have been delayed. Hell, it might have come out earlier. First of all, Covid-19 was not a humungous issue at that point in the US as nonessential businesses, schools,etc didn't even close down yet. Now, There are probably multiple reasons as to why she delayed the album, - It is obviously a good financial decision as streaming, and physical sales of music are actually down. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with delaying something to make sure it is successful either. - Gaga won't be able to do any of the promo she originally intended, which may be more important then some of you may think. If she feels as though Chromatica needs to be delayed to satfisy her creative and perhaps even incredibly personal needs then I think it is a good decision. We've seen how a somewhat derailed era (ARTPOP) has negatively affected her before. - She diverted her and the team's focus towards helping the world combat Covid-19 as it continued to get worse. Regarding that last point yes she could possibly release a new song or the album, however if she doesn't want to release something at this point in time then so be it. I understand that it might be disappointing, but its her music. If she feels as though raising millions in donations from corporations without asking the public for money, and organizing an event with dozens upon dozens of artists to entertain a struggling world is the right thing to do then again, that is simply how it is. Gaga may very well believe that putting out a song that people might pay for would be disingenuous to what she is trying to do, especially since she wanted to gather donations without taking money from a financially crippled public in the first place. 52 minutes ago, Born Brave said: You realize this post screams “entitlement” right? You say she’s suffered, but that’s such crap. Do not try and guilt those of us that are disappointment with this garbage. Maybe she’s struggled mentally, but she literally has someone do her f’ng make up with her own f’ng makeup brand and cook her meals for her each day next to her own private studio. Meanwhile, some of us literally lost everything within the last few weeks while she’s scripting planned phone calls with Tim Cook for donations that are going to be reimbursed in tax breaks next year. They aren’t sacrificing. We are. Do you really want to get into a discussion of entitlement rn? None of that serves as a legitimate excuse for those who believe that they're somehow deserving of Chromatica right now while insulting or constantly criticizing Gaga. It's simply absurd, immature, and absolutely showcases their own entitlement. For example, a large majority of the "letdowns" fans experience are often caused by them believing insiders who end up being completely unreliable. In turn this creates a vicious cycle where whenever a rumored date doesn't pan out, some fans direct all of that anger and disappointment at Gaga, which simply isn't right whatsoever. Furthermore, if you choose to hype yourselves up on unconfirmed information from "insiders" then that's on you and you alone. That is just one of the many reasons why some users here push back against certain ideas such as the entire delay being solely Gaga's fault. There have even been entire threads that have been nearly consumed by people saying condescending, or straight up hateful things about Gaga due to a delay/announcement that wasn't related to Chromatica. Some people were even complaining about Gaga raising $95million for Covid-19 whilst saying things like "she was doing it for publicity only" or "why can't she release music as well, ugh she clearly hates her fans". Don't even get me started on those who accuse her of being lazy, which is unequivocally a false and completely nonsensical statement. The disappointment some people may feel is totally valid, but there is a difference between sharing these feelings maturely and spewing overtly negative statements that lack any sort of respect or even an iota of perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, WholesomeOOf said: Gaga raising $45million for Covid-19 whilst saying things like "she was doing it for publicity" or "why can't she release music as well, ugh she hates her fans". Now its $95 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The entitled fans gross me out tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 5,154 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Creyk said: This goes without saying. Real fans don't feel entitled to her music. the way you just dragged Rihanna Stans 'The Life of a Showgirl' is out on Oct 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, Born Brave said: You realize this post screams “entitlement” right? You say she’s suffered, but that’s such crap. Do not try and guilt those of us that are disappointment with this garbage. Maybe she’s struggled mentally, but she literally has someone do her f’ng make up with her own f’ng makeup brand and cook her meals for her each day next to her own private studio. Meanwhile, some of us literally lost everything within the last few weeks while she’s scripting planned phone calls with Tim Cook for donations that are going to be reimbursed in tax breaks next year. They aren’t sacrificing. We are. Do you really want to get into a discussion of entitlement rn? You’re free to leave if you don’t like her reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: Now its $95 million I keep forgetting that she raised more oof lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,400 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, PopFanatic said: She announced Chromatica on March 2nd and said it was coming out 4/10. By the time of the announcement (on March 2nd), Coronavirus was already a decent-sized issue. So it's not like she announced it far in advance and then changed her mind when she saw what was happening. She knew what was happening already and still chose to announce it and get everyone's hopes up. So no, this isn't a result of us "creating nonexistent release dates and expectations" this is a result of her announcing an album's release date - in the middle of a pandemic - and then going back on that three weeks later. I know a LOT has happened in the world since then and it's kind of hard to keep things straight at this point, but as mentioned above the virus was not nearly as bad as it is now. For perspective, Italy, one of the worst hit by the virus, had 1,128 confirmed cases the day before she announced the date. We need to keep in mind how rapidly things have changed. Sure it was an issue at the time, but the general public at the time couldn't even imagine that it would turn into what it has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Honestly, I know I fall victim to dragging them every now and then, but if you notice users acting entitled, spoiled and bratty, especially repeat offenders, just put them on your ignore list and move on. When you pay any attention to these people, you give them the motivation to keep whining. Just put em on ignore and move on with your day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasJustDance 1,621 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, PopFanatic said: Hot take, but you're right and you're wrong. Like yes, nobody is *entitled* to her music. But I also don't support her current actions. She announced Chromatica on March 2nd and said it was coming out 4/10. By the time of the announcement (on March 2nd), Coronavirus was already a decent-sized issue. So it's not like she announced it far in advance and then changed her mind when she saw what was happening. She knew what was happening already and still chose to announce it and get everyone's hopes up. So no, this isn't a result of us "creating nonexistent release dates and expectations" this is a result of her announcing an album's release date - in the middle of a pandemic - and then going back on that three weeks later. Lady Gaga has always spoke about wanting to heal people with her music and help them...and then she chooses to not release an album that would lift up spirits when we actually need it the most? Yeah, I'm not buying it. This was a calculated move, IMO, because they wouldn't have been able to get the coverage they wanted to and thus lower sales. It probably wasn't even Gaga's fault, TBH, but her labels, but it was a money based decision - not a benevolent one. Because "this isn't the proper time to release a happy album" is complete bullcrap. I can't help but feel jaded as a long-time Gaga fan because if she really was all about love and healing people with her music, this album wouldn't have been delayed. Hell, it might have come out earlier. Hmmmm. You suggested that her label wanted to postpone it to maximize sales OR that Gaga wouldnt want to release it now because it's insensitive to our current situation. like whats your point no offense? It's clear that they postponed it because they wanted to maximize sales, do you really think she's going to tweet: Sorry! You won't get my album April 10 because yall are broke rn and I dont have my original promo spots open no more! sorry xoxo gaga. ill answer that question: 1) No, she wouldn't because like you stated, it's most likely her labels decision, or 2)because that sounds BAD for lack of a better word. She'll give us the publicist version that it's insensitive- and what gives? it's better than the other option anyone with a brain can see that having this album roll out with HUGE NAME 's (gaga ***ARI TOO***) is completely insensitive given the obvious loads of promo planned for the album (they can't just say f promo especially when were in the streaming age and miss gaga runs on sales) Regardless if she wanted to release it to 'heal us' , she can't pull a The Weekend since he was bound to have a successful album regardless of the pandemic or not, he had a #1 song already and was coming for another, he had no reason to postpone it unlike gaga. (don't say music not the bling i- just cus gaga said that doesn't mean interscope did ) you can think what ever though, theres many plausible reasons. It could also be she wanted us stans to have a full album cycle instead of having a mess of a era in the middle of a pandemic. we don't know, and given gaga's recent tract history, why are you going to assume she's talking pure bull sh*t. Im sure you know what she's doing right now. Do you know how bad it would look if she released her album while doing this fundraising / massive media coverage concert for the pandemic???? It'd just look like she's just covering her ass for just releasing a album DURING A PANDEMIC...... sorry if it seem's like i'm dragging you, just trying to make some reasonable points maybe this will help your feeling of 'jaded'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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