Kindness Hooker 7 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Warning said: I don't think years play a huge role as these kind of things are well known inside Hollywood and basically pop culture itself by people who's really involved into this business not just fans or random "my uncle works with x producer and his wife knows his maid" type of scenarios. Harvey Weinstein case for example. Edit: there is also no real evidence to get him jailed as well unlike with the other persona mentioned. There's no real evidence that I was sexually abused at 8 years old but it happened. "If a tree falls and no one hears it did it make a noise" teas OT: I can't be mad she's in a contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Warning said: I think it's similar case as with Kim Petras, they want to be know, they want BOPS they join Dr.Luke and then they try to ditch him after while or at least it seems like it. In the first place they wouldn't even sign with him as this is well known case with Dr. Luke but some musicians just want to have hits and it's ok, since most of the people will enjoy that music regardless with whom the artist works since nobody really check this kind of stuff except diehard fans or pop culture enthusiasts (Kim Petras now Doja Cat, I'm sure this list will go on the time goes by) at least in my humble opinion. Did you actually read the tweets? She’s likely stuck in a recording contract with him same way Kesha was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Unhappy Meal said: She was new to the industry when she signed, had like, 1 official single out and you expect her to know all the industry secrets?.. If I'm not wrong she signed 2014 as mentioned by the user above and Kesha brought this to the daylight 2014 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,303 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 She's just playing dumb. After her homophobic tweets I don't trust her. I wouldn't be surprised if she worked with Luke to get her hits and now she thinks it's cool to diss him after she used him. She sees that her fans are gay and that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Kindness Hooker said: There's no real evidence that I was sexually abused at 8 years old but it happened. "If a tree falls and no one hears it did it make a noise" teas OT: I can't be mad she's in a contract. It's not as philosophical as your Tree comparison. This whole situation just needs more evidence and not just blatantly shout whoever starts first or is potentially more vulnerable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Yikes I had no Idea she worked with him, Seems like she signed before what he truly is came to light so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt but the songs tainted for me now so I wont be listening to it again and hope once shes free of the contract she'll denounce him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, brownie said: Did you actually read the tweets? She’s likely stuck in a recording contract with him same way Kesha was. So I guess being homophobic comes with a contract as well. Regardless of her being homophobic she signed with him 2014 same year Kesha brought this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, justhislife said: She's just playing dumb. After her homophobic tweets I don't trust her. I wouldn't be surprised if she worked with Luke to get her hits and now she thinks it's cool to diss him after she used him. She sees that her fans are gay and that's about it. She done WHAT now? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Also the hypocrisy in this thread I just can't, most of you pretending (most hence not all) to ignore his music and deem his projects as trash and also torn him into pieces because of rape claims, yet I bet you actually bop to Say So or other songs he produced, as if. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindness Hooker 7 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warning said: It's not as philosophical as your Tree comparison. This whole situation just needs more evidence and not just blatantly shout whoever starts first or is potentially more vulnerable. No its not philosophical but that doesn't negate my points. People suffer crimes everyday and there's no evidence does that mean the crime didn't happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said: She done WHAT now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning 432 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kindness Hooker said: No its not philosophical but that doesn't negate my points. People suffer crimes everyday and there's no evidence does that mean the crime didn't happen? I do understand your point, but what I'm saying that in these modern times it is very easy to shout I was raped without any true claim and you can accuse anybody of such nasty thing, that is why it is very important to be rational and look into both perspectives to connect the dots. Edit: What I mean that people need to speak up the sooner the better to truly end those things and put people in jail who deserved it. Because if you decide that after x year I was raped it does not look promising why you were silent all those years? Most will say fear/shame or something else, yes I do understand that, it could be the reasoning, but sometimes it just looks comfortable to bring this claim when it fits your need, you need extra exposure, cut off the ties or anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I've been staying clear of Doja Cat and Kim Petras for that reason. @DutchHooker loves Kim and has got me to listen so some of her music, but I can't bring myself to listen to either of them because of their ties with Dr Luke. Its such ashame for these artists, but the music industry needs to wake up and not hold him to such a high level and sign artists like that. even though Kesha's case ruled that he was not guilty (and I do believe that she may have manipulated the truth), where there's smoke, there is fire. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warning said: Wow... how uneducated must you be to think that using THAT word is okay? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Warning said: Jesus... This.. was the apology? The Sad thing is you never know if someone is genuinely sorry or just saying to save their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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