rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Smith said: You just dont know. Because I'm serious. This performance made much more noise that careers of nowadays pop artists. You're not wrong. She faced SO much criticism after that performance though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith 5,499 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: My girl Britney can not. Britney can dance and sing in the same time, but she cant dance and sing with the iconic baby voice at the same time, she can with her real deep voice. She is good singer and good dancer. there is only one bitch // the real one // B R I T N E Y Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smith said: Britney can dance and sing in the same time, but she cant dance and sing with the iconic baby voice at the same time, she can with her real deep voice. She is good singer and good dancer. Britney was an amazing dancer though. I noticed shes been getting better over the years. But for a good period of time poor Britney was struggling in the dance and singing department. Idk if it was a lack of motivation, confidence, or injury. Maybe all of the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith 5,499 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: Maybe after the year 2000...for a short period of time. I'm assuming you're relatively young, but Janet is an Icon, and her peak lasted longer than Britney's. She can also still sing and peform at the same or close to the same level she did many years ago. My girl Britney can not. Its obvious that you know VERY little about Janet or her career to say that Janet could never have reached her peak without Michael. He was involved very little in her career and they only had one song together neadly 10 years into her career when Michael was actually on the decline. The total number of equivalent album sales managed by Janet Jackson is 77,1 million. https://chartmasters.org/2017/04/cspc-janet-jackson-popularity-analysis/32/ While the difficulties of Britney Spears to break the streaming market can be worrying for her future albums, the highlight of today is the eye catching total of 103,3 million equivalent album sales she managed since her debut. https://chartmasters.org/2019/04/britney-spears-albums-and-songs-sales/ BRITNEY OUTSOLD JANET. there is only one bitch // the real one // B R I T N E Y Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Janet’s accomplishment is hers, that includes breaking free from her family name. As for Britney, I’m not familiar with how things were, but the people around her were to blame. I think she should’ve gone to another label. Didn’t marry Kevin and released a cohesive body of work that she can actually afford at that point in her career. She could’ve been the greatest female pop star ever. The way she performed was better than everyone and you can already see at that time that she had a vision. She was just limited by commercial constraints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Smith said: The total number of equivalent album sales managed by Janet Jackson is 77,1 million. https://chartmasters.org/2017/04/cspc-janet-jackson-popularity-analysis/32/ While the difficulties of Britney Spears to break the streaming market can be worrying for her future albums, the highlight of today is the eye catching total of 103,3 million equivalent album sales she managed since her debut. https://chartmasters.org/2019/04/britney-spears-albums-and-songs-sales/ BRITNEY OUTSOLD JANET. I obviously can't argue with you there, but to downplay Janet Jackson's global popularity and career and assert that she wouldn't have made it without MJ is still utterly comical. Britney is an icon and so is Janet. Britney may have sold more than Janet, but that doesn't make Janet any less of an icon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith 5,499 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, rasclautmangos said: I obviously can't argue with you there, but to downplay Janet Jackson's global popularity and career and assert that she wouldn't have made it without MJ is still utterly comical. Britney is an icon and so is Janet. Britney may have sold more than Janet, but that doesn't make Janet any less of an icon. "Selling 50,5 million albums spread over 11 releases, Janet Jackson’s road was impressive. Most of those sales, some 46 million, came from the five LPs issued during her golden years which lasted from 1986 to 2001. Not many artists can claim five consecutive albums selling an average of over 9 million units." I'm so sad, that SB killed her comercial career. there is only one bitch // the real one // B R I T N E Y Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith said: "Selling 50,5 million albums spread over 11 releases, Janet Jackson’s road was impressive. Most of those sales, some 46 million, came from the five LPs issued during her golden years which lasted from 1986 to 2001. Not many artists can claim five consecutive albums selling an average of over 9 million units." I'm so sad, that SB killed her comercial career. Well the SB, and the fact that she aged out or was aging out of pop girl territory didn't help. Janet was 38 at the time. She was trying to make a come back with her Damito Jo album. I'm assuming it didn't do super well. I can't remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith 5,499 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: Well the SB, and the fact that she aged out or was aging out of pop girl territory didn't help. Janet was 38 at the time. She was trying to make a come back with her Damito Jo album. I'm assuming it didn't do super well. I can't remember. She putted "Just a little while" - the first single from Damita Jo a day after SB. And her last era - "All for you" didnt end good because of the lack of budget for promotion for her 3rd single - "Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)", which ruined her streak of top 10's since "What Have You Done for Me Lately" to "Someone to Call My Lover" except "The Pleasure Principle" which peaked at #14 in the US. Virgin suffered from Mariah's Glitter fiasco. there is only one bitch // the real one // B R I T N E Y Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 13,777 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 My impact. In all seriousness, I agree 100%. If she had started her own label then she certainly would have flourished, and have been far better off. With In The Zone being the first album where Britney could finally exercise a heavy amount of control, she finally got a Grammy. The number one thing that labels don't understand is releasing mainstream forced songs only accounts for minor longevity. Critical acclaim guarantees good longevity. I mean, look at what Ray of Light did for Madonnas career. Let's look at the Britney Jean original concept even, even without her own label had Britney been able to execute the original concept then she would have had artistic acclaim attached to her. Not just for her performances, but for her talent is songwriting and concepts. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown Away 5,218 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ANTI WP said: Lol she is popular than jannet jackson .... without michael jackson JJ could never reached her peak Care to elaborate on that last part my love? Sure, her last name might've helped to get a recording contract and that. But she isn't successful because of Michael, otherwise her first two albums would've smashed as well. She got success on her own merit. They shipped it, but it got shipped back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Gaga 5,374 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Let's be real no major artist will like to leave a Major Label and go independent or start a fairly new label on their own that means massive decline in sales and fame and no artist will love to go through that. Also Blackout and In The Zone are subjective , for me Blackout (Gimme More/Break The Ice) >>>> ITZ and I'm sure a lot of fans relate to that you know music is subjective so it was a hard time for her but she gave us one of her best albums not to mention she sorta rebounded with Glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRCF29 8,219 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I like the Britney Jean album. Step off Don't Call Me Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,489 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Smith said: You just dont know. Because I'm serious. This performance made much more noise that careers of nowadays pop artists. Any press is good press, huh? The performance was hard to watch. You can tell her team tried to make it as easy for her as possible. That includes the number of back up dancers she had. They knew she'd have no presence. The choreography was much easier than her back up dancers, and the moves were made intentionally simple so she had a chance to keep up. And she couldn't. It was obvious she was trying hard to remember the choreo while she was performing. On top of that she didn't sing live, and she couldn't even bother to lip-sync all the way through. I understand she was probably in a bad place at the time, but let's not drag the word iconic through the mud. I don't even want to get into your comparison to the other artists. You say you don't want to compare women then do exactly that. Cardi isn't even in the same genre. It's easy to compare Cardi and Dua with her though, because neither can dance or perform live. But lets not bring Ariana into this when she could serve a better live performance from her living room than Britney did at any point in her career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, Blown Away said: Care to elaborate on that last part my love? Sure, her last name might've helped to get a recording contract and that. But she isn't successful because of Michael, otherwise her first two albums would've smashed as well. She got success on her own merit. Not to mention that Michael also had like 4 to 6 other siblings who failed to make it as solo artists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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