Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Florin said: I dont like Trump, but he isnt the only one who is obsessed with this drug. It is actually used all over the world and some countries stopped selling it to other countries. Of course there hasn't been enough testing with this, but I'm curious. U will be ok that someone you know to get a placebo as a treatment for covid? Only by doing that, the efficiency of the drug can be proven or not. Who gets to decide who gets the placebo and who the real medicine? I'm no doctor...let the experts test and ratify this medication....the president isn't an authority on this and is clearly pushing a personal agenda ... What if it turns out there are negative effects that could damage a patient and a better treatment was available.... Trump is a reckless leader in so many ways... like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevana229 1,916 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Trump and his GOP friends are just trying to cash in before they get voted out in November. Simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Woolfsmck said: I'm no doctor...let the experts test and ratify this medication....the president isn't an authority on this and is clearly pushing a personal agenda ... What if it turns out there are negative effects that could damage a patient and a better treatment was available.... Trump is a reckless leader in so many ways... Yes. Let the expert tests. It would be ok for you if someone you know gets a placebo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Florin said: Yes. Let the expert tests. It would be ok for you if someone you know gets a placebo? Couldn't hurt... like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 hours ago, PartySick said: Seriously, f*ck this guy. It actually works to some degree, my ex is a nurse, and he told me it is being used for treatment between the 2nd and 5th day of the infection. Its mostly effective as a treatment medicine in the early staged of the covid-19 disease. There are however side effects of the medicine, since it is an antiviral drug, and people in later stages of covid-19 don't really benefit from the drug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRCF29 8,230 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/michigan-democrat-says-hydroxychloroquine-saved-her-life/ Don't Call Me Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Couldn't hurt... are you serious? Do you know what a placebo is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Florin said: are you serious? Do you know what a placebo is? Yes.. it's a fake medicine, but the patient doesnt know is fake. It's meannt to see if the patient is responding to the medication or something else... like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Yes.. it's a fake medicine, but the patient doesnt know is fake. It's meannt to see if the patient is responding to the medication or something else... And you will be ok if someone you know will get a fake medicine and not a real medicine for covid? I dont get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Why do they bother writing regulations for conflict of interest, if they're not gonna apply them. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 7,017 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 21 hours ago, Florin said: I dont like Trump, but he isnt the only one who is obsessed with this drug. It is actually used all over the world and some countries stopped selling it to other countries. Of course there hasn't been enough testing with this, but I'm curious. U will be ok that someone you know to get a placebo as a treatment for covid? Only by doing that, the efficiency of the drug can be proven or not. Who gets to decide who gets the placebo and who the real medicine? Test groups are mostly chosen randomly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, justhislife said: Test groups are mostly chosen randomly. Yea, but people agree to be part of a test. People with covid go to the hospital to get the best treatment possible, not to be part of a test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 7,017 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Florin said: Yea, but people agree to be part of a test. People with covid go to the hospital to get the best treatment possible, not to be part of a test. Are people at hospitals being given placebos? Sources? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, justhislife said: Are people at hospitals being given placebos? Sources? Not to my knowledge. But there are reports of little flexibility of changing treatment even if it didnt work for that person. There are stories that people in x hospital only gave x treatment and so on. The discussion started from the fact that there isnt a confirmation of this drug efficiency. And I pointed out that for that you need tests, including with placebos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 7,017 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Florin said: Not to my knowledge. But there are reports of little flexibility of changing treatment even if it didnt work for that person. There are stories that people in x hospital only gave x treatment and so on. The discussion started from the fact that there isnt a confirmation of this drug efficiency. And I pointed out that for that you need tests, including with placebos. I'm not understanding your first part there, would you mind clarifying? And yes, tests are going to be needed to test drug efficiency. However, it is illegal to have patients participate without their consent, at least in the U.S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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