Gaga is held to a higher standard.

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

Agreed. And she is at a higher standard than most artists in terms of multifaceted talent 

[brizoda 3,859]

The (problem?) with Gaga is that she is not subtle in her fashion, in her voice, in her music and in her words

[LilyLark 10,107]

42 minutes ago, Quark said:

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I think that Gaga is always held to a higher standard than most pop stars and this a both a good a bad thing. For example many fans and critics have been comparing Gaga to Dua Lipa’s recent release and most of this comparisons are not favoring Gaga. Yet, if Gaga had released an album like FN it would probably not be acclaimed because it would be to basic for her or it would be too similar to what has done before. But when Gaga tries something unconventional or new people say that Gaga is not being honest or true to herself. The bottom line is that it is very hard for Gaga to win. I guess people realize that Gaga is very talented and that is why she is held to a higher standard, but this also ruins her acclaim. And the fact that Gaga changes very quickly in terms of her artistry leaves people polarized and divided. Someone like Dua Lipa is only expected be a be a regular pop star that appeals to young people and that is why minor experimentation gets her praised. 

Most "critics." The only critic I saw was someone from a newspaper in Ireland....maybe there is someone else, but I wouldn't count youtubers or random bloggers/twitter . The main critics are people from NYT, Pitchfork (ugh), Guardian, Telegraph, L.A. Times, Billboard, Variety, etc.

 Gaga herself kind of fed into it when she hyped ARTPOP so much...but I agree. However, Gaga's not the only one who doesn't get a "pass." Lana, Adele, and Janelle are often held to different standards....Adele has never had an album in the 80s on metacritic....but Selena Gomez does. I would even argue that Beyonce at times, despite being a critical darling, is held to a different standard. If any other artist had done "The Gift" it would have been in the 80s on metacritic.

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Just now, brizoda said:

The (problem?) with Gaga is that she is not subtle in her fashion, in her voice, in her music and in her words

And that’s why we love her 

[brizoda 3,859]

1 minute ago, blankpaper said:

And that’s why we love her 

She's an Aries

[Mr S 8,689]

9 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

Most "critics." The only critic I saw was someone from a newspaper in Ireland....maybe there is someone else, but I wouldn't count youtubers or random bloggers/twitter . The main critics are people from NYT, Pitchfork (ugh), Guardian, Telegraph, L.A. Times, Billboard, Variety, etc.

 Gaga herself kind of fed into it when she hyped ARTPOP so much...but I agree. However, Gaga's not the only one who doesn't get a "pass." Lana, Adele, and Janelle are often held to different standards....Adele has never had an album in the 80s on metacritic....but Selena Gomez does. I would even argue that Beyonce at times, despite being a critical darling, is held to a different standard. If any other artist had done "The Gift" it would have been in the 80s on metacritic.

I agree about Lana but her last album changed the perception. But her prior work suffered the same way Gaga did.

Janelle you are right as well, someone like her should be universal acclaim but she wasn't until Dirty Computer.

Adele is safe. There is no way she will do well with critics. In fact, she has actually done better than she should if you compare her to Ed Sheeran who is similar.

I disagree about Beyonce, she is definitely on the critics good side where even when she farts, it will be praised. Even The Gift managed a 77. If any other artist bombed like that, it would be low 60s.

Perhaps Gaga will follow Janelle and Lana in having their most recent work change the perception.

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Why do we even compare the two? Other than making pop music, they have nothing in common and are on completely different levels. Gaga has already achieved something even the most talented people dream of, in not one, but TWO of the biggest entertainment industries. Dua is a newcomer, she’s chic and her album is brilliant but compare her to say Billie, not Gaga 

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It makes sense, she’s after all an established legend. Of course she will be held to a different standard than Dua who hasn’t been around for long.

And yes, Gaga would have been panned for something like FN. And it’s not a drag on Dua, I’m just saying FN is not as ambitious as anything Gaga has put out, musically and lyrically.  Many people have critiqued SL for its lyrics, but I can totally see Dua singing those words. Let’s be real. She’s a good artist and FN is not a bad album in the slightest, but the level of ambition is different to anything Gaga has done. Therefore, Gaga of course is held at a higher standard.

[LilyLark 10,107]

Meh, The Gift wasn't perfect....but it was risky. It deserved a higher score than Selena and Halsey. I get what you are saying about Adele, but she's never really been "highly acclaimed"....usually just "acclaimed." Most other artists would be having scores in the 80s, or even 90s, with Adele's albums. Also, unlike Ed she has put out a classic album: 21.

13 minutes ago, Mr S said:

Perhaps Gaga will follow Janelle and Lana in having their most recent work change the perception.

I agree. I liked, but didn't love, SL.....but was shocked at how good the critical reception was for the track (I'm aware stans feel otherwise). Even NYT and Pitchfork gave raves, and they tend to be somewhat critical of Gaga. I suspect like Lana, she's going to be finally given her full "due" with Chromatica..

*Obviously, Gaga's always received mostly good reviews even back before most of the GP acknowledged her talent...all her albums are in the green on Metacritic. However, she's been polarizing so a 5 star review was often partially cancelled out by a 3 star review on Metacritic.

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Nah. SL is far more basic than anything on FN and she still got praised for it That blows a giant hole in your whole theory.

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1 hour ago, Quark said:

Is not just me, most of the critics praised the song when it released. 

As if the opinion of critics means much of anything. 

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2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Nah. SL is far more basic than anything on FN and she still got praised for it That blows a giant hole in your whole theory.

also this. 

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I caught myself doing this today actually.

Like I love FN, but then today I thought “what if this was Chromatica?” and realized I would’ve been disappointed lol. Not necessarily that I expect better from Gaga, that’s only part of it. I just expect more... bold choices for songs I guess? Hard to explain.

I also love SL and it makes sense as the lead but if that’s the highest standard for Chromatica I’ll also be disappointed

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1 hour ago, Leoj305 said:

Listen, yes she is. But what can you expect when you go from just dance )revolutionary pop bop) to poker face ( tops just dance) to bad romance (a complete shift in gears in dance pop) to telephone ( pop perfection) to born this way ( another complete gear shift in dance pop) and edge of glory, to ****ing applause ( underwhelming and a retreat in sound arguably) to million reasons ( country pop for a dance pop crowd?) to shallow ( best ballad she’s ever done). 
 

She sets the standards for her own music. 
 

Irs the fact everyone praised and went crazy for stupid love, honestly when it leaked half the world was like she’s back to poker face Gaga level of bop. But stupid love had been out for almost 3 months and counting folks. While others under her level drop bop after bop after bop. There’s a reason people are like girl? 
 

SLOVE is a bop, but a big portion of her audience had it for a month. Don’t act like that didn’t affect it’s impact. Had it dropped on 02/28 with the video and nobody heard it you could have expected that same praise or more it got in Jan when it leaked.  

I will never understand the hate for Applause. The songwriting's clever, it's really catchy, has that classic Gaga stutter words for the hook, and you can still tell it's from a different album. What more can you ask for? I actually prefer Applause over Just Dance.

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10 minutes ago, LGs LM said:

I will never understand the hate for Applause. The songwriting's clever, it's really catchy, has that classic Gaga stutter words for the hook, and you can still tell it's from a different album. What more can you ask for? I actually prefer Applause over Just Dance.

I was disappointed in applause originally because she had set the whole “super experimental 6+ minute song” expectation and we got a safe 3:30 radio-friendly bop.
 

But it’s aged like a fine wine and I look back on it now and agree with everything you said.  The lyrics are so uniquely her, it’s her best lead after BR imo. It’s one of my most listened to tracks of hers now a days.