Record 3.3M file for unemployment in the US

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16 minutes ago, Economy said:

If it does more people will die for reasons related to poverty than the virus itself. Sad but true

Yes, manmade disasters kill an order of magnitude of hundreds times more people than biological ones. Look at wars and famines: all those leaders thought they were trying to help!!! Essentially we make problems much worse by trying to “fix” them. Human folly. It doesn’t have to be this way, but it usually is. I hope we as a society have learned enough, in the digital era, about how to survive with very little. This will be out greatest test, and if we do it right, we can succeed and become a better society from it.

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2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Yes, manmade disasters kill an order of magnitude of hundreds times more people than biological ones. Look at wars and famines: all those leaders thought they were trying to help!!! Essentially we make problems much worse by trying to “fix” them. Human folly. It doesn’t have to be this way, but it usually is. I hope we as a society have learned enough, in the digital era, about how to survive with very little. This will be out greatest test, and if we do it right, we can succeed and become a better society from it.

I mean even a severe downturn shouldn't kill as many ppl as a war but there's always some poverty related deaths:

 

- suicides

- those that end up homeless (high death rate among them)

- ppl who can't take care of health properly because of medical bills they can't pay. Here in Canada it's estimated 1/3 of prescriptions don't get filled for money related reasons

- higher crime

 

These impacts should be taken into consideration too when trying to decide the level of restrictions and how long

 

We may be able to manage a month of lockdown. We certainly can't do it u til a vaccine comes out

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1 minute ago, Economy said:

I mean even a severe downturn shouldn't kill as many ppl as a war but there's always some poverty related deaths:

 

- suicides

- those that end up homeless (high death rate among them)

- ppl who can't take care of health properly because of medical bills they can't pay. Here in Canada it's estimated 1/3 of prescriptions don't get filled for money related reasons

- higher crime

 

These impacts should be taken into consideration too when trying to decide the level of restrictions and how long

 

We may be able to manage a month of lockdown. We certainly can't do it u til a vaccine comes out

There will probably be a ton of overdoses too. There’s already a huge opioid epidemic and it’ll just get bigger 

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Here in Orlando this unemployment crisis will be astronomical. The city's lifeline has been and will be closed for the foreseeable future. Many of my friends liveliehoods are on the line. It's scary. I'm so grateful my job isnt in the tourist industry anymore 

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4 minutes ago, blankpaper said:

There will probably be a ton of overdoses too. There’s already a huge opioid epidemic and it’ll just get bigger 

This is a dammed if u do dammed if u don't situation tbh

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

25 minutes ago, Economy said:

I mean even a severe downturn shouldn't kill as many ppl as a war but there's always some poverty related deaths:

 

- suicides

- those that end up homeless (high death rate among them)

- ppl who can't take care of health properly because of medical bills they can't pay. Here in Canada it's estimated 1/3 of prescriptions don't get filled for money related reasons

- higher crime

 

These impacts should be taken into consideration too when trying to decide the level of restrictions and how long

 

We may be able to manage a month of lockdown. We certainly can't do it u til a vaccine comes out

All those factors make me believe what Trump said, whether we hate him or not, about making sure the “solution” doesn’t end up hurting and costing more than the initial “problem”. In a crisis things can go from bad to worse so easily. People lose hope and become desperate.

I hope that within 8 weeks the situation gets under control, the R0-metric goes back to one or less than one. People aren’t used to such isolation. Our mental health is so fragile. So the next few weeks will be crucial. I pray the frontline healthcare workers get all the equipment, drugs and moral support they need. If they give up, we don’t stand a chance.

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28 minutes ago, blankpaper said:

There will probably be a ton of overdoses too. There’s already a huge opioid epidemic and it’ll just get bigger 

If there are more addicts, there will also be more gang violence. This could escalate into a drug war situation as bad as in Mexico. This is very frightening.

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6 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

All those factors make me believe what Trump said, whether we hate him or not, about making sure the “solution” doesn’t end up hurting and costing more than the initial “problem”. In a crisis things can go from bad to worse so easily. People lose hope and become desperate.

I hope that within 8 weeks the situation gets under control, the R0-metric goes back to one or less than one. People aren’t used to such isolation. Our mental health is so fragile. So the next few weeks will be crucial. I pray the frontline healthcare workers get all the equipment, drugs and moral support they need. If they give up, we don’t stand a chance.

Trump has been insensitive to the virus from the start, prejudiced against Chinese and he can never speak in a professional manner.

 

It's hard to take him seriously when 99.9% of everything that comes out of his mouth is pure nonsense

 

But to some degree I think he does have a valid point when saying that we need to make sure the cure doesn't end up being worse than the illness itself. I don't think he's wrong about that

 

That being said we all know he doesn't value life either and if it were up just to him we all know he wouldn't even take into account the life toll of the virus when deciding how far to go on measures and would only care about the economy 

 

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Damn...people are gonna have such a hard time finding work...like 6 months from now? A year? 

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2 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said:

Damn...people are gonna have such a hard time finding work...like 6 months from now? A year? 

Why do u act surprised lol. It was kinda obvious this was gonna happen

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

Trump has been insensitive to the virus from the start, prejudiced against Chinese and he can never speak in a professional manner.

 

It's hard to take him seriously when 99.9% of everything that comes out of his mouth is pure nonsense

 

But to some degree I think he does have a valid point when saying that we need to make sure the cure doesn't end up being worse than the illness itself. I don't think he's wrong about that

 

That being said we all know he doesn't value life either

 

I mean, yes he didn’t take the pandemic seriously enough when he had the time. But neither did the EU, and while the US has overtaken the number of *infections*, their *death* rate is staggeringly higher. And let’s not let China off the hook. They lied to the WHO and said the disease could not be transmitted from human to human as recently as mid-January (it’s on the WHO’s official Twitter page). 

I truly feel this challenge is time for humanity to put aside rivalries and differences and come together- because by not listening to each other and sharing expertise back in January we made this pandemic get as far as it has. I wish only scientisists could become politicians, but that’s another matter...

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3 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

I mean, yes he didn’t take the pandemic seriously enough when he had the time. But neither did the EU, and while the US has overtaken the number of *infections*, their *death* rate is staggeringly higher. And let’s not let China off the hook. They lied to the WHO and said the disease could not be transmitted from human to human as recently as mid-January (it’s on the WHO’s official Twitter page). 

I truly feel this challenge is time for humanity to put aside rivalries and differences and come together- because by not listening to each other and sharing expertise back in January we made this pandemic get as far as it has. I wish only scientisists could become politicians, but that’s another matter...

We don't yet know the US death rate. Because most of the cases are new, not many have had time to advance to that stage yet of being critical

 

The growth in new cases can distort numbers u kinda have to look specifically at cases found days ago and see the fatalities. Ppl who became symptomatic yesterday are obviously not gonna be dead

 

As for China, regardless of what they did wrong I think it's very distasteful to call it the Chinese virus

 

I know I wouldn't like it if ppl called mad cow disease the Canadian or American disease

 

Viruses and bacteria exist all over the globe and can infect anyone. Nature knows no borders. We don't need to attach an entire race to it

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

We don't yet know the US death rate. Because most of the cases are new, not many have had time to advance to that stage yet of being critical

 

The growth in new cases can distort numbers u kinda have to look specifically at cases found days ago and see the fatalities. Ppl who became symptomatic yesterday are obviously not gonna be dead

 

As for China, regardless of what they did wrong I think it's very distasteful to call it the Chinese virus

 

I know I wouldn't like it if ppl called mad cow disease the Canadian or American disease

 

Viruses and bacteria exist all over the globe and can infect anyone. Nature knows no borders. We don't need to attach an entire race to it

The Chinese are a country and ethnicity, not a race. Calling something by it’s country of origin is just standard etiquette. The name does not convey the meaning, it’s just a name. We call Germany Germany but they don’t. Doesn’t make Engish speakers uneducated or rude.

CNN and other mainstream news organisations first started calling it the “Chinese Coronavirus” so they should be condemned for spreading the name in the first place. 

Look, I too wish Trump would call it by it’s officially adopted name of COVID-19 but he’s obviously more than happy to annoy journalists with it. I don’t think naming convention is that important, especially considering how different countries usually end up calling it by their own name.

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