lodylody 1,746 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnnyVersace said: I'm talking about all of the past projects she's put out. There's a constant thread of disappointment and hate no matter what Gaga does. I definitely agree that the negativity is neverending But I think we should all try to be understanding. Whilst a lot of negativity is unwarranted, this is one of the few times where (hopefully) everyone can understand why people might be angry and upset. A lot of people are incredibly disappointed by this decision, and this is exacerbated by the bizarre reasoning (releasing an album would've provided joy to a lot of people in a dark time, and delaying an album will not allow for the defeat of COVID-19). We should all try to be respectful of one another. Gaga herself knew this decision would cause a lot of anger and upset. To clarify, my post was a flippant and intending-to-be-lighthearted remark and I didn't mean to irritate you with it And to anyone who's angry and upset like I am, please consider the role that her record label probably had in this decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 9,009 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, lodylody said: I definitely agree that the negativity is neverending But I think we should all try to be understanding. Whilst a lot of negativity is unwarranted, this is one of the few times where (hopefully) everyone can understand why people might be angry and upset. A lot of people are incredibly disappointed by this decision, and this is exacerbated by the bizarre reasoning (releasing an album would've provided joy to a lot of people in a dark time, and delaying an album will not allow for the defeat of COVID-19). We should all try to be respectful of one another. Gaga herself knew this decision would cause a lot of anger and upset. To clarify, my post was a flippant and intending-to-be-lighthearted remark and I didn't mean to irritate you with it And to anyone who's angry and upset like I am, please consider the role that her record label probably had in this decision. Oh no I totally get it - and I do understand the disappointment with the album delay. However, it's clear that she has a bigger vision for this era, and wants to release it as it is intended to be released. If she released it during COVID, without performances, appearances, looks, etc. people would still complain. It's a lose/lose, and she wants to serve us the proper pop/CrazyGa era we've been waiting for. While I understand it would provide joy for a lot of people in a rough time, it's not what she (and her label) feels is best. And we gotta accept that and be patient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys 6,118 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 We were literally almost to the finish line i- Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblondee 3,695 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, mamo said: Looking back at this thread, I think it’s pretty obvious why Gaga has distanced herself - this fanbase is pretty toxic. I was thinking about this last night. She's done a 180 in terms of how close she is with fans now vs how she was at the start of her career and I don't blame her AT ALL. This isn't a healthy fanbase, and yes there are PLENTY of wonderful fans whom I'm sure she appreciates, the bad definitely seems to outweigh the good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladygaga1984 175 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I’m sad to say this, but Gaga has become such a sell-out. And this whole decision just seriously contradicts the album message she’s been talking about lately. I mean, what better time to release an album when your fans are in lockdown and new Gaga music would probably be the highlight of this experience for most of us. She could have also used this opportunity to re-connect with her fanbase and promote the album in new innovative ways, including through live performances from her living room for example. But hey, bling not the music these days! I guess that meanwhile she will have time to try and sells us some more of those ‘kindness’ eye liners to make a buck. Also, she may decide to scrap the album and start working on something else which is quite typical of Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindnessPunk28 1,506 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, ladygaga1984 said: I’m sad to say this, but Gaga has become such a sell-out. And this whole decision just seriously contradicts the album message she’s been talking about lately. I mean, what better time to release an album when your fans are in lockdown and new Gaga music would probably be the highlight of this experience for most of us. She could have also used this opportunity to re-connect with her fanbase and promote the album in new innovative ways, including through live performances from her living room for example. But hey, bling not the music these days! I guess that meanwhile she will have time to try and sells us some more of those ‘kindness’ eye liners to make a buck. Also, she may decide to scrap the album and start working on something else which is quite typical of Gaga. Beautifully stated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 684 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Alavaye said: People are seriously having meltdowns over album delay while others are dying out there, losing their jobs and live in fear whether they ll have something to eat tomorrow and a place to sleep?! You seriously need to snap out of it, NOW! This is her work, her album, and she and her team have the complete right to do whatever they want to with it. Yes, ofc as a fan I want to hear new music from her but these are extraordinary circumstances and they are doing best with what they have in this situation! Love you Gaga and thank you for everything you've done so far and for helping so many people around the world! Please don't mind the spoiled ones, they just dont know better at this moment. <3 Kindness punks ftw! you so hot nonsequitur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misunderstood 8,736 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Alavaye said: People are seriously having meltdowns over album delay while others are dying out there, losing their jobs and live in fear whether they ll have something to eat tomorrow and a place to sleep?! You seriously need to snap out of it, NOW! You’re hot but this is not a valid narrative. People were dying, losing their jobs, and living in fear when Gaga was MAKING Chromatica, released Stupid Love, etc. Did you have this energy then? Probably not "I'd rather be poor and happy, than rich and alone" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplauseftAdele 4,730 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, ladygaga1984 said: I’m sad to say this, but Gaga has become such a sell-out. And this whole decision just seriously contradicts the album message she’s been talking about lately. I mean, what better time to release an album when your fans are in lockdown and new Gaga music would probably be the highlight of this experience for most of us. She could have also used this opportunity to re-connect with her fanbase and promote the album in new innovative ways, including through live performances from her living room for example. But hey, bling not the music these days! I guess that meanwhile she will have time to try and sells us some more of those ‘kindness’ eye liners to make a buck. Also, she may decide to scrap the album and start working on something else which is quite typical of Gaga. Honestly, this era has been everything we wanted up until now. Imagine if she went through with her plans for live performances, a surprise coachella set, etc. I honestly don’t think it’s about selling more copies, but rather about us being able to experience the era as we should’ve. Aka live performances, talk shows, music festival & award show sets & red carpets, street fashion photos, and maybe us being able to meet her / her hosting a fan event. Like this era is obviously meant to be her delivering to us what we want and I feel like she wants us to experience it fully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 684 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 At the end of the day it is a money thing. Art needs to sell, and sell well cause the art market is controlling the art itself. This was her biggest complaint during the ARTPOP era. Go back to the SXSW performance and that long speech/interview the day later. I was completely with her on that. She changed, everybody does. But her words don't follow her behaviour anymore. So it is not about the postponement at all, it is about the ****ing COVID situation "used" to explain why the the album will be delayed. The message is wrong in my opinion, and you can s*hit on my opinion, u have the right to. But to use the actual tragic situation to explain an album delay is just not ethical and does not follow the "art will save us from the tragic events we are experiencing, distract us, help us battle and blah blah" when in reality it is just that: the industry which she is part, and wanted to be part of, dictates the rules: and the rules are: we need promo, looks, crowds of people shouting YAS GAGA tv, radio, MVs and all that s*hit, we invested loads of $$$ in this so we need to get it right to maximise profit. I am not naive. I just believe in the power of art. And this for me is not art anymore. It is just "goods", disposable imitation of art. The decision was surely made by Interscope/gaga and management. They can't have what they wanted (top 5) and accolades so they are changing to a new time frame. Which is okay from a business prospective not an artist prospective. I am sorry it is just so evident. She is like any other popstar. She just has a good and effective elocution. But now the words of that message are just ribbons on a lie to me. Sorry not sorry nonsequitur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Kardashian 2,708 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 You guys are such a mess! The selfishness I've seen from "fans" these past few days! Yes this is art, yes she's trying to keep her word but this is also her JOB. There are certain rules that no matter what happens, need to be followed. I'd love to see all of you trying to do what she does while maintaining the status she has and trying to keep her fan base fed even if that means her art not getting the treatment and roll out she dreamed of. You guys are acting like she voted for Trump or something. It's her career and maintaining it takes way more than giving an album to thirsty and messy fans whenever they want it. Get a ****ing grip! Shop SKIMS & SKKN BY KIM online! The Kardashians streaming now on Hulu and Disney+! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight 2,434 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 She wants commercial success and that's fine, she's a mainstream artist, not some underground indie struggling singer. I just know that the album will leak before the release date and we will get ARTPOP-sized meltdown tweets from her. The drama of it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieHWilson 684 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kim Kardashian said: You guys are such a mess! The selfishness I've seen from "fans" these past few days! Yes this is art, yes she's trying to keep her word but this is also her JOB. There are certain rules that no matter what happens, need to be followed. I'd love to see all of you trying to do what she does while maintaining the status she has and trying to keep her fan base fed even if that means her art not getting the treatment and roll out she dreamed of. You guys are acting like she voted for Trump or something. It's her career and maintaining it takes way more than giving an album to thirsty and messy fans whenever they want it. Get a ****ing grip! We will Miss Kardashian or however you write this. It is her JOB right. She makes money from it, so no need to sell me bulls*hit about kindness and finding solution with talks with doctors and scientists. Be real. Post a message and be real do not post a 3 pager to sell me a twisted message. I love you. nonsequitur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I like how people are saying Gaga's selfish, but at the same time demanding her to release her music despite her wishes Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, insight said: She wants commercial success and that's fine, she's a mainstream artist, not some underground indie struggling singer. WHERE THE F*CK DID YOU GET THIS GROUND BREAKING INFORMATION?!?! Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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